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Paolo’s Solution

At dinner the other night, Paolo pointed out that while the US is budgeting $75+ billion for the war, Iraq’s GDP is $60 billion. We could buy the entire country for less than it’ll take to conquer it. (And does anyone believe the current budget figure?)


Apparently there’s some footage of Bush trying out his firm-and-patriotic scowl before broadcasting his recent speech. It’s been shown by the BBC and elsewhere, but not in the US. Does anyone have a link to it? (If this is currently the number one hit at blogdex, forgive my being so out of it. Damn vacation.)

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16 Responses to “Paolo’s Solution”

  1. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/gbhair1.html

  2. David, do you believe ANY budget figure projections that come out of Washington, your state capitol, your county seat or your city government? The question “Does anyone believe the current budget figure?” could be applied to any program, project, military campaign, etc., whether it be under a Republican or a Democrat.

    Oh, and can we p-l-e-a-s-e lay off the snide personal comments about Bush? Clinton, Gore, Hillary and Company have their own weird or unusual personality quirks, too. Oh, and regarding Bush’s supposedly lack of intelligence, you might recall that some of history’s greatest leaders weren’t exactly Rhodes Scholars, while some of the most evil people in history were acknowledged geniuses (including several in the leadership of the Third Reich).

  3. “Wierd or unusual personality quirks”? Bush is an arrogant liar and bully who sees himself as God’s arbiter of good and evil. Under cover of his war on the world, he and his cronies are savaging social programs, and abrogating the Constitution.

    Bush should be impeached and prosecuted, and you’re concerned about David being snide? Get real.

  4. “We could buy the entire country for less than it’ll take to conquer it.” This is meaningless and typical of the stupidity of Americans: you are confusing a measure of the goods traded during one year with the ‘value’ of a country.

  5. Andrea:

    1. I will try to remember to put a smiley emoticon next to jokes for the humor impaired.

    2. The serious part is that for what we’re spending on this war, we could have done far more good for the world and thus for ourselves.

    3. Bush’s ignorance and arrogance are not a joke.

  6. Gee, I wonder what the tab would be for a Saddam-funded nuclear explosion in, say, New York City, or a biological attack on LA, or a chemical attack on Jerusalem? I’d venture to guess that compared to that little figure, this war of liberation is going to be a bargain.

    And frankly, David, given what you’ve been writing about the Internet lately – including “The World of Ends*” and the ridiculous piece in Salon about RF interference, I don’t think questioning the president’s intelligence or humility casts you in a very flattering light.

    There is one thing the war’s price tag shows, however, that it’s clearly not a War for Oil, because we can buy oil a lot cheaper than we can “steal” it from its rightful owner, your pal Saddam.

    *The Internet was originally conceived as an experiment, a testbed from which we could learn about packet switching on a large scale, not as the Final Solution to all the problems of networking. You can look it up.

  7. Sheesh! Now I see what some of the other bloggers meant when they said comments were becoming increasingly nasty lately.

    And tell me, surely most thinking Americans aren’t as simplistic, literal-minded and so sure of their being right as Richard Bennett above? Surely not?

  8. Sigh. It’s quite evident from the tone of this blog and comments (as well as the previous blog regarding the Dixie Chicks), that, as others have observed, we do indeed have “Two Americas”, and neither really wants to have a true dialogue because neither really wants to hear what the other has to say. This war appears to have stripped away whatever facade remained.

  9. hi David,
    On most European stations Bush’ war speech began with him making funny faces to the camera and people in the room (then someone in the background says, hey the mikes are open). For me it felt as if he wasn’t taking declaring war serious. Have tried to locate a stream containing those first seconds, will let you know as soon as I found it. In the footage I’ve found untill now it has been cut away.

    kind regards,

    Ton

  10. Get real! Shouldn’t this blog be titled “All American’s Are Dumb!” or “We Hate Americans.” From your generalizatins, contempt and condescending words it is evident that you do not wish to have a discussion at all, but just a giant put down America and Americans forum. You have such short memories of having your butts pulled out of the fire in WWII. I wish you well in your isolationism.

  11. David, maybe it makes sense to stop the senseless hatred against the current administration. Your SPLJ messages of togetherness and hope get drowned out when you persist in a parade of hate.

    You are a smart man, with counter-arguments that need to be aired. Please don’t marginalize yourself with a message of rage and hate.

  12. It’s contempt, not hatred. And rage is appropriate when your leader starts an unjustified war.

  13. Well I was quite shocked at reading these few postings, and I am currious to the age of the posters. Surely most of you must be very young to not recall why this war is actually 12 years delayed and American is quite behind in reacting actually!! Have you also forgotten Sept. 11th when so many of ALL of our countries people, family and friends were just cruely torn away from us?? Should we just sit back and say.. Oooooh that’s OK.. Kill as many of us as you like!! EXCUSE me people!!!!??? Like the song says.. “Have you forgotten??”. Perhaps none of you knew anyone who died that day.. is that the reason you show such little care?? Wow people do some homework before you shoot off your mouths and try THINKING before you post the nonsense. AND… yanno some peeps, probably the SAME peeps would be whining about WHOEVER was in administration, it really wouldn’t matter cause whoever it was you wouldn’t be happy.

  14. The matter at habd is a very touchy one. Especially in light of the people who died during 9/11, our troops who have lost their lives, and the Iraqui people who are dying as well. However, because of the sketchy nature of this conflict, it is just as valid to challenge this war and our presidency as well as support it. Just because you support it doesn’t mean those of us who oppose it, yes, even in light of recent deaths, are full of it. Its healthy to challenge everything. So I may be wrong in being vocal about my suspicions and negative feelings toward Prez. Bush and his war..but I might be right also. So, obviously we have 2 camps, so why don’t we stop name calling and realize that there are always 2 sides to evey coin. Always.

  15. Its healthy to challenge everything.

    So don’t complain when the majority challenges you for challenging the liberation of Iraq – we’re just speaking truth to power.

    If you want to be constructive in your attempts to stop the fighting in Iraq – which doesn’t stop the killing of Iraqis, since Saddam was doing a great deal of that before the troops landed – why don’t you give you whining a break for about a month or so. We were in Vietnam for 10 years before Nixon ended that war, just for some perspective.

    From a strictly pragmatic, reducing the body-count standpoint, a swift victory followed by a non-Saddam government in Iraq is the most realistic path to low casualty numbers. If you’re a real pacifist and people-person, at this point you should be cheering the coalition.

    If you aren’t, you’re either a fool, a hypocrite, or a hater. Do as you wish, but don’t assume you’re entitled to respect for speaking Idiot Wind.

  16. It might be worth the various commenters here to review a list which David W posted previously from the public conversations site:

    1) As you reflect on the state of the world and recent and emerging US policies and actions, what are your biggest concerns?

    2) What  troubles  you most about  the course of international events and the role the US has been  playing?  What  do you find reassuring?

    3) What are your hopes and fears regarding the outcome of US and/or UN military interventions in Iraq?

    4) Can you tell us something about your life experience that will help us understand your views and primary concerns?

    5) What is the heart of your concerns related to the situation in the world and possible US responses?

    6) Are you aware of any dilemmas, mixed feelings, value conflicts, or uncertainties within your current views?

    7) What experience or credible information might shift your current views?

    8) What specific events or changes have altered your sense of individual, national, and international “security?” In what way do you feel more “secure?” Less “secure?” What are some specific actions our leaders could take that might increase your sense of security at home and abroad?

    9) What actions could the US take that would fit your assessment of risks and your hopes and values?

    10) What could the US do regarding Iraq that would make you feel proud to be an American citizen (or to live here)?

    11) If you had a half-hour with President Bush, what real (non-rhetorical or loaded) question would you want to ask him?  Why would you pick that question?

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