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		<title>By: ShefeCesemoto</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/06/28/nothing-is-worse-than-burning-a-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-48270</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ShefeCesemoto</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/06/28/nothing-is-worse-than-burning-a-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-48264</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adamsj</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/06/28/nothing-is-worse-than-burning-a-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-22722</link>
		<dc:creator>adamsj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 13:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phil,

In its day, didn&#039;t &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Save_the_Queen_(Sex_Pistols_song)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; qualify?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>In its day, didn&#8217;t <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Save_the_Queen_(Sex_Pistols_song)" rel="nofollow">this</a> qualify?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/06/28/nothing-is-worse-than-burning-a-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-22721</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Years ago I saw a promotion for British bacon with the slogan &quot;Fry the flag!&quot; I remarked on this at the time, commenting on how relaxed we Brits were about our symbols of patriotism and so forth. My wife pointed out I was drawing a false analogy, as the flag isn&#039;t at the centre of British patriotism - the monarchy is. So the slogan that would prove my point would be &quot;Fry the Queen!&quot; I&#039;m not expecting to see that any time soon.

Proposition 1: every nation has shibboleths - symbols which are so deeply and pre-rationally embedded that deliberately challenging or violating them is a waste of time, even if it can sometimes be productive in the short term.

Proposition 2: shibboleths like these have no need to be protected or actively (non-ritualistically) celebrated; if significant amounts of time and attention are being devoted to doing so, something&#039;s wrong.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago I saw a promotion for British bacon with the slogan &#8220;Fry the flag!&#8221; I remarked on this at the time, commenting on how relaxed we Brits were about our symbols of patriotism and so forth. My wife pointed out I was drawing a false analogy, as the flag isn&#8217;t at the centre of British patriotism &#8211; the monarchy is. So the slogan that would prove my point would be &#8220;Fry the Queen!&#8221; I&#8217;m not expecting to see that any time soon.</p>
<p>Proposition 1: every nation has shibboleths &#8211; symbols which are so deeply and pre-rationally embedded that deliberately challenging or violating them is a waste of time, even if it can sometimes be productive in the short term.</p>
<p>Proposition 2: shibboleths like these have no need to be protected or actively (non-ritualistically) celebrated; if significant amounts of time and attention are being devoted to doing so, something&#8217;s wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: David Weinberger</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/06/28/nothing-is-worse-than-burning-a-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-22720</link>
		<dc:creator>David Weinberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(I somehow managed to replace the body of this post with one about Dan Bricklin&#039;s post about StyleFeeder for about 5 hours. So, if you could have sworn that that&#039;s what this post was about, you&#039;re not going crazy.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I somehow managed to replace the body of this post with one about Dan Bricklin&#8217;s post about StyleFeeder for about 5 hours. So, if you could have sworn that that&#8217;s what this post was about, you&#8217;re not going crazy.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Federman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Federman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you consider the ground of politicians, this is not an ironic post at all; rather it is a cynical one.

To a career politician, what is the most important priority, above all others? Getting re-elected. Any of those more substantive, more controversial, and &lt;em&gt;more important to the survival of the nation and the world&lt;/em&gt; issues are not going to wind up the emotions of the thinking-impaired masses, who continue to vote for many of those in power today. Rather it is an image of Old Glory surrounded by flames that does it, and if the flames are those of the hellfire that befalls abortionists and same-sex couples, not to mention the Volvo-driving liberals,  so much the better. Yee-haw.

(And Harold, even for those that graduate, in many states they graduate not knowing the differences among scientific theory, hypothesis and opinion, in a country led by a man who doesn&#039;t bother himself with troublesome nonsense like facts, or history.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you consider the ground of politicians, this is not an ironic post at all; rather it is a cynical one.</p>
<p>To a career politician, what is the most important priority, above all others? Getting re-elected. Any of those more substantive, more controversial, and <em>more important to the survival of the nation and the world</em> issues are not going to wind up the emotions of the thinking-impaired masses, who continue to vote for many of those in power today. Rather it is an image of Old Glory surrounded by flames that does it, and if the flames are those of the hellfire that befalls abortionists and same-sex couples, not to mention the Volvo-driving liberals,  so much the better. Yee-haw.</p>
<p>(And Harold, even for those that graduate, in many states they graduate not knowing the differences among scientific theory, hypothesis and opinion, in a country led by a man who doesn&#8217;t bother himself with troublesome nonsense like facts, or history.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/06/28/nothing-is-worse-than-burning-a-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-22718</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see the germ of a contest here, David.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the germ of a contest here, David.</p>
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		<title>By: David Weinberger</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/06/28/nothing-is-worse-than-burning-a-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-22717</link>
		<dc:creator>David Weinberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, I am never ironic.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I am never ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: sean coon</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/06/28/nothing-is-worse-than-burning-a-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-22716</link>
		<dc:creator>sean coon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i want to burn a flag simply because this frigging ammendment &quot;debate&quot; made it to the senate floor.

jeesh!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i want to burn a flag simply because this frigging ammendment &#8220;debate&#8221; made it to the senate floor.</p>
<p>jeesh!</p>
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