Comments on: The cult of expertise http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/ Let's just see what happens Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:24:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: haen http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/comment-page-1/#comment-51831 haen Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:36:04 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/#comment-51831 ich bin beeindruckt echt geil

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]]> By: diana http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/comment-page-1/#comment-23529 diana Sun, 15 Oct 2006 02:35:10 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/#comment-23529 would you be interested in publishing an article on your reflections in our magazine?

]]> By: Jay Cross http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/comment-page-1/#comment-23528 Jay Cross Sun, 01 Oct 2006 04:36:37 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/#comment-23528 You had to be there. The CIA analysts we talked with struck me as 100% sincere in their desire to provide better information to their clients. They recognize that collaboration is necessary to get there, and that social network software fosters collaboration. David and I could probably debate about which of us is more liberal (Boston versus Berkeley), but we agree that these people are looking in the right direction.

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]]> By: Janelle M. Roach http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/comment-page-1/#comment-23527 Janelle M. Roach Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:28:24 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/#comment-23527 Definition

Experts = witlessness = the pleasure of being INTELLIGENT.

1. put together for transport or storing etc. for preservation. pack up (sl.), (of an engine) peter out, go out of action.

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/comment-page-1/#comment-23526 Seth Finkelstein Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:13:10 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/#comment-23526 Hmmm … I didn’t post my original comment, as it didn’t seem worth it, but maybe I should have.

My standard objection to social blather, including blogs, wikis, “prediction markets”, and whatever else the NewNewThing crowd is pushing: People can’t handle the truth. They don’t *WANT* the truth.

We need only look to the Valerie Plame scandal (I like the term the “Plame-out”, but it didn’t catch on) to see how much those in charges actively wanted to undermine accurate intelligence. No amount of blogosity would change this.

I don’t think the danger here is in making the CIA more efficient. I think the danger is in creating yet another way that sucking up to the relevant A-listers and telling people what they want to hear is the path to career advancement. Granted, there’s plenty of that already, so it can be argued this stuff is nothing new. But exhalting the incestuous, petty, bullying, personality-driven processes, can’t be good.

]]> By: David Weinberger http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/comment-page-1/#comment-23525 David Weinberger Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:57:40 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/#comment-23525 Actually, Jon it never occurred to me. I guess I don’t much care if the CIA is spidering blogs, alongside Google, Technorati and Robert Scoble.

But, Brian, yes, that has occurred to me, thanks. And thirty years ago, I would have refused to talk with them. But, life is complex, and I’d rather have the CIA giving our leaders accurate information than inaccurate information. I’d also like to make it harder for our leaders to lie to us about what the CIA has told them. I’d also like to see torturers prosecuted.

As I say, life is complex.

]]> By: Jon Husband http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/comment-page-1/#comment-23524 Jon Husband Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:07:30 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/#comment-23524 Do they monitor blogs using the capabilities of the NSA infrastructure ? I know that’s OT for that session, and you probably wouldn’t be so impolite as to ask .. but I would bet you are / were curious about that.

]]> By: Brian Holmes http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/comment-page-1/#comment-23523 Brian Holmes Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:53:34 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/#comment-23523 Did it occur to you, as a liberal, that perhaps the liberality, openness and efficiency of the people you were engaging with could be directly, even intrinsically related to the death-dealing capacities of the people you were not engaging with? Could it be that a superior fluidity and equality in social exchanges, when concentrated and set to work within a powerful and secretive organization, might actually serve purposes of social domination? What does it mean to be a “liberal”?

]]> By: Marshall Kirkpatrick http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/comment-page-1/#comment-23522 Marshall Kirkpatrick Thu, 28 Sep 2006 18:53:21 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2006/09/27/the-cult-of-expertise/#comment-23522 I can only imagine the edit wars on the wiki page for the best way to pull peoples’ fingernails out. Is there a Frank Olsen page? I wonder what it says?

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