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		<title>By: Unit Structures &#8211; Facebook rethinks Beacon</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2007/11/14/facebooks-privacy-default/comment-page-1/#comment-37704</link>
		<dc:creator>Unit Structures &#8211; Facebook rethinks Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there is no mention of a global opt-out, which I believe is a mistake. One of the critical problems with Beacon is it breaks boundaries of [...]</description>
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		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2007/11/14/facebooks-privacy-default/comment-page-1/#comment-37420</link>
		<dc:creator>Youth Radio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, you might want to check out our new video, &quot;Public is the New Private,&quot; about how social networking sites have become forums for young people to post their personal business for everyone to see.

http://current.com/items/89184466_public_is_the_new_private</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, you might want to check out our new video, &#8220;Public is the New Private,&#8221; about how social networking sites have become forums for young people to post their personal business for everyone to see.</p>
<p><a href="http://current.com/items/89184466_public_is_the_new_private" rel="nofollow">http://current.com/items/89184.....ew_private</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 05:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t deleting the Facebook cookie be a way of opting out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t deleting the Facebook cookie be a way of opting out?</p>
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		<title>By: Rants, Raves, and Rhetoric v4 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-11-21</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rants, Raves, and Rhetoric v4 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-11-21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jean Warner</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2007/11/14/facebooks-privacy-default/comment-page-1/#comment-14333</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m emailing this post to lots of people - and wondering why the text is &quot;centered.&quot; 

It just makes it a little harder to read. 

My grandfather nearly didn&#039;t get his first book published because he&#039;d used a &quot;script&quot; font on his typewriter (a long time ago) when he wrote the manuscript. 

Moral of story: Readability matters. Just a suggestion.

Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m emailing this post to lots of people &#8211; and wondering why the text is &#8220;centered.&#8221; </p>
<p>It just makes it a little harder to read. </p>
<p>My grandfather nearly didn&#8217;t get his first book published because he&#8217;d used a &#8220;script&#8221; font on his typewriter (a long time ago) when he wrote the manuscript. </p>
<p>Moral of story: Readability matters. Just a suggestion.</p>
<p>Jean</p>
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		<title>By: Andrius Kulikauskas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrius Kulikauskas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, great post! I am thinking that Facebook has perhaps its own interests in mine and not just ours when it doesn&#039;t divulge personal information.  That&#039;s because if it sold the personal information than the buyers might not come back, they might maintain their own lists.  So its a way of protecting its assets.

Perhaps the right to privacy derives from our right to conscience which is arguably greater than our right to life.  (In the Jewish and Christian traditions, you can be sentenced to death, but you can&#039;t have your conscience voided.)  A certain degree of privacy (and of forgiveness) is essential so that people can be free enough of shame to have their own mind (even when they can&#039;t speak it).  That makes privacy relative to each person&#039;s moral capacity - weaker people need more privacy.  It also is compatible with the idea that it is wrong to shame people (applying social pressure to shut them down), but it is all right to help them feel guilty or simply question their behavior (applying personal position to open them up and ourselves as well).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, great post! I am thinking that Facebook has perhaps its own interests in mine and not just ours when it doesn&#8217;t divulge personal information.  That&#8217;s because if it sold the personal information than the buyers might not come back, they might maintain their own lists.  So its a way of protecting its assets.</p>
<p>Perhaps the right to privacy derives from our right to conscience which is arguably greater than our right to life.  (In the Jewish and Christian traditions, you can be sentenced to death, but you can&#8217;t have your conscience voided.)  A certain degree of privacy (and of forgiveness) is essential so that people can be free enough of shame to have their own mind (even when they can&#8217;t speak it).  That makes privacy relative to each person&#8217;s moral capacity &#8211; weaker people need more privacy.  It also is compatible with the idea that it is wrong to shame people (applying social pressure to shut them down), but it is all right to help them feel guilty or simply question their behavior (applying personal position to open them up and ourselves as well).</p>
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		<title>By: Crosbie Fitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crosbie Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natural rights are constraints that all human beings are inclined and able to apply to each other in order to protect their interests.

The right to life is the first and primary. This encompasses equality and fraternity (against negligence).

The right to privacy is the second. This encompasses the right to private ownership and control over products or goods that one manufactures, discovers, or purchases whether of a material or informational nature. It also encompasses the right to exclusive occupation and control over one&#039;s private space (including access whether material or informational).

The right to truth is the third, with liberty the fourth.

One could conceive of a world without private property (communism), but this is at odds with human nature. One might even stretch further to a Big Brother dystopia where no private space existed, i.e. that the state&#039;s interest in its citizens overrode the citizen&#039;s natural interest in secrecy. No doubt the state would not reciprocate by allowing continuous inspection of its open processes by its citizens.

Privacy is fundamental to human nature. Human beings cannot help but pursue and guard it. If one respects this then one cannot permit people to divest themselves of their right to it. It must be considered inalienable. This doesn&#039;t prevent people reducing their privacy (permitting continued access to, and scrutiny of, what would otherwise be a private space), nor prevent people giving away all their private property, but it prevents anyone else claiming a greater right to another&#039;s privacy than the individual concerned.

This is why rights to life and liberty are also inalienable. One can place one&#039;s life in danger or give lifelong service as a servant, but no-one else can claim a greater right to another&#039;s life, privacy, or liberty.

Truth is also inalienable in that it is inviolate, one can keep facts secret, but one has no right to  change the facts. Thus an author may have a right to anonymity (as part of their right to privacy), but they cannot surrender the truth of their authorship - though they are of course free to tolerate another&#039;s falsehood.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natural rights are constraints that all human beings are inclined and able to apply to each other in order to protect their interests.</p>
<p>The right to life is the first and primary. This encompasses equality and fraternity (against negligence).</p>
<p>The right to privacy is the second. This encompasses the right to private ownership and control over products or goods that one manufactures, discovers, or purchases whether of a material or informational nature. It also encompasses the right to exclusive occupation and control over one&#8217;s private space (including access whether material or informational).</p>
<p>The right to truth is the third, with liberty the fourth.</p>
<p>One could conceive of a world without private property (communism), but this is at odds with human nature. One might even stretch further to a Big Brother dystopia where no private space existed, i.e. that the state&#8217;s interest in its citizens overrode the citizen&#8217;s natural interest in secrecy. No doubt the state would not reciprocate by allowing continuous inspection of its open processes by its citizens.</p>
<p>Privacy is fundamental to human nature. Human beings cannot help but pursue and guard it. If one respects this then one cannot permit people to divest themselves of their right to it. It must be considered inalienable. This doesn&#8217;t prevent people reducing their privacy (permitting continued access to, and scrutiny of, what would otherwise be a private space), nor prevent people giving away all their private property, but it prevents anyone else claiming a greater right to another&#8217;s privacy than the individual concerned.</p>
<p>This is why rights to life and liberty are also inalienable. One can place one&#8217;s life in danger or give lifelong service as a servant, but no-one else can claim a greater right to another&#8217;s life, privacy, or liberty.</p>
<p>Truth is also inalienable in that it is inviolate, one can keep facts secret, but one has no right to  change the facts. Thus an author may have a right to anonymity (as part of their right to privacy), but they cannot surrender the truth of their authorship &#8211; though they are of course free to tolerate another&#8217;s falsehood.</p>
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		<title>By: David Weinberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Weinberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crosbie, thanks for this. But I don&#039;t see why you claim that privacy is an inalienable or natural right. If I were to deny that -- and I think I do -- how would you support your claim?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crosbie, thanks for this. But I don&#8217;t see why you claim that privacy is an inalienable or natural right. If I were to deny that &#8212; and I think I do &#8212; how would you support your claim?</p>
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