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	<title>Comments on: Web fame &#8211; notes on my talk-to-be at ROFLcon</title>
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		<title>By: draw poker on line</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/04/24/web-fame-notes-on-my-talk-to-be-at-roflcon/comment-page-1/#comment-35117</link>
		<dc:creator>draw poker on line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: (nitch) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ROFLCon? TGTBT!</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/04/24/web-fame-notes-on-my-talk-to-be-at-roflcon/comment-page-1/#comment-31075</link>
		<dc:creator>(nitch) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ROFLCon? TGTBT!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 11:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see much more of in the future. And who better to describe it than the keynote speaker at ROFLCon, David Weinberger of Harvard&#8217;s Berkman Center for Internet and Society: There’s a long tail of fame, although [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] see much more of in the future. And who better to describe it than the keynote speaker at ROFLCon, David Weinberger of Harvard&#8217;s Berkman Center for Internet and Society: There’s a long tail of fame, although [...]</p>
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		<title>By: davidw</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kgw, I am indeed tired to listening to the be-dicked. It&#039;s hard to know what to do, though, since the analyses of the causes are in conflict, and they all (just about) seem to have an element of truth.

BTW, kgs, we talked bout this issue for about ten minutes during the panel itself. And I was happy to hear it raised throughout the conf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kgw, I am indeed tired to listening to the be-dicked. It&#8217;s hard to know what to do, though, since the analyses of the causes are in conflict, and they all (just about) seem to have an element of truth.</p>
<p>BTW, kgs, we talked bout this issue for about ten minutes during the panel itself. And I was happy to hear it raised throughout the conf.</p>
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		<title>By: amanda root</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda root</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bloggers are like bums in the bleachers at a football game
they will say anything for a free bag of peanuts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bloggers are like bums in the bleachers at a football game<br />
they will say anything for a free bag of peanuts</p>
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		<title>By: K.G. Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.G. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I have become tired of listening to male-only panels. It sounds as if you might be there, as well. How do you think we can change this? What can you especially do to make a difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I have become tired of listening to male-only panels. It sounds as if you might be there, as well. How do you think we can change this? What can you especially do to make a difference?</p>
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		<title>By: Liz P.</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/04/24/web-fame-notes-on-my-talk-to-be-at-roflcon/comment-page-1/#comment-30860</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, every week it seems like there is at least one tech conference going on somewhere in the U.S.. Who sponsors these things? Some conference planning company must be getting rich.  Everyone is hungry for new information, new trends, new ways to make money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, every week it seems like there is at least one tech conference going on somewhere in the U.S.. Who sponsors these things? Some conference planning company must be getting rich.  Everyone is hungry for new information, new trends, new ways to make money.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickipedia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My del.icio.us bookmarks for April 26th</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickipedia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My del.icio.us bookmarks for April 26th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joho the Blog &#187; Web fame - notes on my talk-to-be at ROFLcon - David Weinberger on Internet fame: Sure, much of it?s crap, but the point about an age of abundance is that we get an abundance of crap and of goodness. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Joho the Blog &raquo; Web fame &#8211; notes on my talk-to-be at ROFLcon &#8211; David Weinberger on Internet fame: Sure, much of it?s crap, but the point about an age of abundance is that we get an abundance of crap and of goodness. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: davidw</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz, I have zero insight into how the panel was put together. 

BTW, the panel includes people who are not famous on the Web but who have created popular sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, I have zero insight into how the panel was put together. </p>
<p>BTW, the panel includes people who are not famous on the Web but who have created popular sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Lawley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Lawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, is the fact that there are no women on the panel a function of there not having been any women identified who were &quot;internet famous&quot; in this way, or a function of women having declined the invitation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, is the fact that there are no women on the panel a function of there not having been any women identified who were &#8220;internet famous&#8221; in this way, or a function of women having declined the invitation?</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Fienberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Fienberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Fame has been a property of the broadcast (= one-to-many) system.&quot;

I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s relevant to note that fame has been co-opted by broadcast culture, but it&#039;s not really a property of it, at all.

I wonder if this is accurate: 

Broadcast culture has defined itself through it&#039;s ability to exploit the quantity-dimension of fame: to the degree that anyone&#039;s fame is related to the number of people who recognize them as famous, broadcast media has capitalized on it&#039;s ability to appear as &quot;bankers of fame.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fame has been a property of the broadcast (= one-to-many) system.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s relevant to note that fame has been co-opted by broadcast culture, but it&#8217;s not really a property of it, at all.</p>
<p>I wonder if this is accurate: </p>
<p>Broadcast culture has defined itself through it&#8217;s ability to exploit the quantity-dimension of fame: to the degree that anyone&#8217;s fame is related to the number of people who recognize them as famous, broadcast media has capitalized on it&#8217;s ability to appear as &#8220;bankers of fame.&#8221;</p>
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