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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 17:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Christopher Herot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Herot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a typical example of stupid use of the &quot;shared secret&quot; security factor.  It obviously isn&#039;t a secret if every company with whom you do business uses the same &quot;secret.&quot;

What I&#039;ve found that works is to ask the company to &quot;correct&quot; your SSN.  Most don&#039;t really care - they just want a number that they think you will remember.

Never ascribe to malevolence what can adequately be explained by incompetence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a typical example of stupid use of the &#8220;shared secret&#8221; security factor.  It obviously isn&#8217;t a secret if every company with whom you do business uses the same &#8220;secret.&#8221;</p>
<p>What I&#8217;ve found that works is to ask the company to &#8220;correct&#8221; your SSN.  Most don&#8217;t really care &#8211; they just want a number that they think you will remember.</p>
<p>Never ascribe to malevolence what can adequately be explained by incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t just a privacy issue.  Have they not heard about phishing?  Encouraging people to hand over their personal information to a stranger via a popup window sets a dangerous precedent.

Even so, no matter how much fun it is to slag on Comcast, I wouldn&#039;t call this intentional evil.  It&#039;s equally likely that some mid-level manager hasn&#039;t thought through the ramifications of that request -- and isn&#039;t incented to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t just a privacy issue.  Have they not heard about phishing?  Encouraging people to hand over their personal information to a stranger via a popup window sets a dangerous precedent.</p>
<p>Even so, no matter how much fun it is to slag on Comcast, I wouldn&#8217;t call this intentional evil.  It&#8217;s equally likely that some mid-level manager hasn&#8217;t thought through the ramifications of that request &#8212; and isn&#8217;t incented to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But we won&#039;t have to worry about this once REAL ID goes into effect, because instead of relying on SSNs, it will be our REAL ID number, which from what I can tell of the standard is only guaranteed unique in your state.  So God forbid that somebody has your number in a different state, and then the states get mixed up.

IF it ever gets implemented, I expect REAL IDs to be used for taxing purposes instead of SSNs, probably about 15 years after.  IF is a big word right now for it.

If McCain is elected (not my preference), I expect REAL ID to be a hot item again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But we won&#8217;t have to worry about this once REAL ID goes into effect, because instead of relying on SSNs, it will be our REAL ID number, which from what I can tell of the standard is only guaranteed unique in your state.  So God forbid that somebody has your number in a different state, and then the states get mixed up.</p>
<p>IF it ever gets implemented, I expect REAL IDs to be used for taxing purposes instead of SSNs, probably about 15 years after.  IF is a big word right now for it.</p>
<p>If McCain is elected (not my preference), I expect REAL ID to be a hot item again.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You mean PRIVATE sector ID greed, don&#039;t you?

Although it is increasingly difficult to distinguish. You already need government issue ID to board an airplane or enter many public and private buildings. I&#039;m sure buses and trains will be next. Our kids will be amazed to learn that there was once a time you could travel in America without official &quot;papers&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean PRIVATE sector ID greed, don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Although it is increasingly difficult to distinguish. You already need government issue ID to board an airplane or enter many public and private buildings. I&#8217;m sure buses and trains will be next. Our kids will be amazed to learn that there was once a time you could travel in America without official &#8220;papers&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comcast&#039;s incompetence is now legendary. They&#039;ve actually created a department called Comcast Cares and employed someone to scour blogs to look for negative comments about Comcast. I&#039;m surprised he has posted yet.

BTW, nice mention in today&#039;s Globe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comcast&#8217;s incompetence is now legendary. They&#8217;ve actually created a department called Comcast Cares and employed someone to scour blogs to look for negative comments about Comcast. I&#8217;m surprised he has posted yet.</p>
<p>BTW, nice mention in today&#8217;s Globe.</p>
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		<title>By: David Weinberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Weinberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think it&#039;s true only of monopolies. Large stores will continue to set norms, and we will not find the incremental privacy loss sufficient to move us to a competitor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s true only of monopolies. Large stores will continue to set norms, and we will not find the incremental privacy loss sufficient to move us to a competitor.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No those are lessons of a monopoly, a true free market will have privacy rights as part of the competitive market and some companies will value them. Those that value it will get more of that market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No those are lessons of a monopoly, a true free market will have privacy rights as part of the competitive market and some companies will value them. Those that value it will get more of that market.</p>
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