Comments on: Zenzuu: The social network with a one-track mind http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/ Let's just see what happens Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:55:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Jackson http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-47137 Jackson Wed, 13 May 2009 22:11:48 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/#comment-47137 If you have ever seen a MLM event you will see the parallel in the video they have on the website. People tend to become almost evangelical in embracing the idea till they figure out there is no money to be made. Yes while signing up is free, your time spent will be too. It appears this is really about Search Engine Optimization. Making the site stronger by having many members and lots of activity by signing in 30 times a month. Google and the other search engines will see the activity and the back links and then the key words and phrases will appear on the front page of search engines, which is a good thing. Then a pay per click deal for the advertisers. What’s the real benefit? The owners make the money. ZZPartners, Inc out of Nevada has taken the company public with a reverse merger. The two principles of the company have had experience with that before, several times, and one should look at status of the companies they had involvement in. Lots of press releases lots of bells and whistles…buy the stock…board of directors take salaries and bonuses. So if you have lots of time to kill, go head on. If you want to make money…get a job. Those that are hawking the product with their Youtube videos got wise to Amway but not wise enough. Just my opinion. If you have ever seen a MLM event you will see the parallel in the video they have on the website. People tend to become almost evangelical in embracing the idea till they figure out there is no money to be made. Yes while signing up is free, your time spent will be too.

It appears this is really about Search Engine Optimization. Making the site stronger by having many members and lots of activity by signing in 30 times a month. Google and the other search engines will see the activity and the back links and then the key words and phrases will appear on the front page of search engines, which is a good thing. Then a pay per click deal for the advertisers.

What’s the real benefit? The owners make the money. ZZPartners, Inc out of Nevada has taken the company public with a reverse merger. The two principles of the company have had experience with that before, several times, and one should look at status of the companies they had involvement in.

Lots of press releases lots of bells and whistles…buy the stock…board of directors take salaries and bonuses. So if you have lots of time to kill, go head on. If you want to make money…get a job.

Those that are hawking the product with their Youtube videos got wise to Amway but not wise enough.

Just my opinion.

]]> By: Mort http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-43823 Mort Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:46:29 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/#comment-43823 Tommy Vu? Tom Vu? Of late night TV infomercials? You better Google this guy ! Tommy Vu? Tom Vu? Of late night TV infomercials? You better Google this guy !

]]> By: trishah http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-41605 trishah Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:02:12 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/#comment-41605 I bought into the early hype and promoted ZenZuu as a way for my group (I am admin of http://www.savejfc.net) to make money and keep our website up and running. I put up a whole section of pages explaining the concept (http://www.savejfc.net/zenzuu). I have 70+ people in my down-line and I am now ashamed that I put my reputation on the line for this. I have been so disappointed with ZenZuu that I put up the following website. http://www.MyZenZuuExperience.com I tried to get them to make changes to their terms and privacy policy. We put a lot of work into it and it ended up with Joe Risk himself leaving me a voice mail which... well, there is an audio track of the voicemail on the site, listen to it for yourself and see what you think. http://www.myzenzuuexperience.com/trishah4.html (near bottom of page) Now after reading Mark's statement about it's development I understand more fully why the system has broken down as it has. Thank you Mark for sharing your experience. Trishah I bought into the early hype and promoted ZenZuu as a way for my group (I am admin of http://www.savejfc.net) to make money and keep our website up and running. I put up a whole section of pages explaining the concept (http://www.savejfc.net/zenzuu). I have 70+ people in my down-line and I am now ashamed that I put my reputation on the line for this.

I have been so disappointed with ZenZuu that I put up the following website.

http://www.MyZenZuuExperience......com

I tried to get them to make changes to their terms and privacy policy. We put a lot of work into it and it ended up with Joe Risk himself leaving me a voice mail which… well, there is an audio track of the voicemail on the site, listen to it for yourself and see what you think. http://www.myzenzuuexperience......shah4.html (near bottom of page)

Now after reading Mark’s statement about it’s development I understand more fully why the system has broken down as it has. Thank you Mark for sharing your experience.

Trishah

]]> By: steveBo http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-41144 steveBo Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:29:34 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/#comment-41144 Hey Coldplay Either you or Mark are speaking shit. He says no one will make cash yet you coldplay say you have received money. Anyone not living in the USA made any cash from this site? I had 120 peeps in my downline but I lost interest when the launch date came and went with no advertisers. Isnt that how we make money with advertisers? Will someone clear the air here? Hey Coldplay
Either you or Mark are speaking shit. He says no one will make cash yet you coldplay say you have received money. Anyone not living in the USA made any cash from this site? I had 120 peeps in my downline but I lost interest when the launch date came and went with no advertisers. Isnt that how we make money with advertisers? Will someone clear the air here?

]]> By: coldplaycurlz http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-40981 coldplaycurlz Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:15:23 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/#comment-40981 WOW! This whole thing gave me a headache. I, deep down, believe that ZENZUU is going to be a great thing! But I totally understand how it seems like a scam, but I've seen how optimistic it has made my mom, who is disabled and hasn't really left the house in 5 yrs! She is now one of the co-hosts of one of the many calls... There's just so much going on it just seems impossible to get it all going in time with just a few programmers getting it together.... As far as the pay out... I have made $1.06 in 2 months just off of $10,000 taken in over those 2 months. My dad has made $5 and one of my friends who has no one in his downline has made 3 cents. I know you're thinking that's a waste of time, but just think when there's three more 0s behind that 10,000 what I'll be making!!!! Plus, that's way more than MySpace or slow a** Facebook has ever given me and I've been spending 2-3 hours a day on there playing Mafia Wars!!!! I need a life! lol WOW! This whole thing gave me a headache. I, deep down, believe that ZENZUU is going to be a great thing! But I totally understand how it seems like a scam, but I’ve seen how optimistic it has made my mom, who is disabled and hasn’t really left the house in 5 yrs! She is now one of the co-hosts of one of the many calls…

There’s just so much going on it just seems impossible to get it all going in time with just a few programmers getting it together….

As far as the pay out… I have made $1.06 in 2 months just off of $10,000 taken in over those 2 months. My dad has made $5 and one of my friends who has no one in his downline has made 3 cents.

I know you’re thinking that’s a waste of time, but just think when there’s three more 0s behind that 10,000 what I’ll be making!!!!

Plus, that’s way more than MySpace or slow a** Facebook has ever given me and I’ve been spending 2-3 hours a day on there playing Mafia Wars!!!! I need a life! lol

]]> By: zenzuu developer http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-40926 zenzuu developer Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:57:25 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/#comment-40926 correction, i meant CEO, CFO (not CTO) , COO) The CTO was probably the most knowledgeable person on the whole team. correction, i meant CEO, CFO (not CTO) , COO) The CTO was probably the most knowledgeable person on the whole team.

]]> By: zenzuu developer http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-40924 zenzuu developer Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:49:49 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/#comment-40924 Oh yea, also. They claim to have spent over 1.5 mil to develop Zenzuu. They spent maybe $3,000 on server bills a month, $4,800 for each of us four programmers & engineers, $300 for cell phone bills, and almost nothing for office space through a friend. Within the 10 months of development, Zenzuu might have spent $400,000, but NEVER 1.5 million dollars. Also, Zenzuu was suppose to be an online store where people could post products for sale and get other zenzuu reps to sell their products on a mass scale, sharing commissions throughout the downline, but after the investors came in 6 months into development, they wanted us to build an advertisement system, so its pretty much the investors fault for screwing something that could have been pure and helpful to the world. And to make it worse, Zenzuu promised so much, like starting to pay the downline in August of 08, but they STILL dont pay their downline because there ARENT ANY ADS!!!!!!!! Either way, the advertising system wasnt even completed until 4 months after deadline, December 08. One good thing about Zenzuu though is that so many people found out about it and we were peaking at 50,000 signups a month before zenzuu went downhill, and those signups were all word of mouth. No marketing campaigns besides a 24/7 phone conference which was hosted by Joe Risk, who NEVER EVEN GOT PAID FOR ALL THE HARD WORK HE DID. That man spent 1 hour 3 times a day, 7 days a week for over 8 months on that conference call, selling the same shit and saying the same shit over and over. It was like he was living his own gullable nightmare. None of the Officers (CEO, CTO, COO) knew anything about the internet and never even took any advice from us programmers about which direction to take zenzuu, so it's their own faults. Much love, Mark Entingh Fuck Zenzuu. Oh yea, also. They claim to have spent over 1.5 mil to develop Zenzuu. They spent maybe $3,000 on server bills a month, $4,800 for each of us four programmers & engineers, $300 for cell phone bills, and almost nothing for office space through a friend. Within the 10 months of development, Zenzuu might have spent $400,000, but NEVER 1.5 million dollars.

Also, Zenzuu was suppose to be an online store where people could post products for sale and get other zenzuu reps to sell their products on a mass scale, sharing commissions throughout the downline, but after the investors came in 6 months into development, they wanted us to build an advertisement system, so its pretty much the investors fault for screwing something that could have been pure and helpful to the world.

And to make it worse, Zenzuu promised so much, like starting to pay the downline in August of 08, but they STILL dont pay their downline because there ARENT ANY ADS!!!!!!!! Either way, the advertising system wasnt even completed until 4 months after deadline, December 08.

One good thing about Zenzuu though is that so many people found out about it and we were peaking at 50,000 signups a month before zenzuu went downhill, and those signups were all word of mouth. No marketing campaigns besides a 24/7 phone conference which was hosted by Joe Risk, who NEVER EVEN GOT PAID FOR ALL THE HARD WORK HE DID. That man spent 1 hour 3 times a day, 7 days a week for over 8 months on that conference call, selling the same shit and saying the same shit over and over. It was like he was living his own gullable nightmare.

None of the Officers (CEO, CTO, COO) knew anything about the internet and never even took any advice from us programmers about which direction to take zenzuu, so it’s their own faults.

Much love,
Mark Entingh

Fuck Zenzuu.

]]> By: zenzuu developer http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-40923 zenzuu developer Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:35:15 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/#comment-40923 I developed the MLM system for Zenzuu. I did it to make money. I was a consultant who was bound by NO CONTRACT, so I can say what I want about Zenzuu. Me and the other programmers were the only ones who got paid. No one on Zenzuu will ever be paid, ever. Joe Risk, the guy in the video on zenzuu is at the top of the food chain, and if zenzuu were to make $50,000 in 1 month, he would only make $200 at most!!!!! First, 30% would go to investors, the other 40% to the sales reps who brought in all the advertisements, so 30% would be left over for ad revenue. 80% of that 30% would be distributed to the downline. I tested using $20,000 (as the 30% left over for ad revenue) and Joe Risk got about $105 from his first 9 levels and another $95 from his 10th level bonus. I gave up on Zenzuu after learning the real numbers behind everything. They aren't giving away 80% of total ad gross, its net! first they have to pay investors, sales commissions, server & office bills, salaries, THEN they pay the members. I developed the MLM system for Zenzuu. I did it to make money. I was a consultant who was bound by NO CONTRACT, so I can say what I want about Zenzuu. Me and the other programmers were the only ones who got paid. No one on Zenzuu will ever be paid, ever. Joe Risk, the guy in the video on zenzuu is at the top of the food chain, and if zenzuu were to make $50,000 in 1 month, he would only make $200 at most!!!!!

First, 30% would go to investors, the other 40% to the sales reps who brought in all the advertisements, so 30% would be left over for ad revenue. 80% of that 30% would be distributed to the downline. I tested using $20,000 (as the 30% left over for ad revenue) and Joe Risk got about $105 from his first 9 levels and another $95 from his 10th level bonus.

I gave up on Zenzuu after learning the real numbers behind everything. They aren’t giving away 80% of total ad gross, its net! first they have to pay investors, sales commissions, server & office bills, salaries, THEN they pay the members.

]]> By: Paul http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-40718 Paul Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:02:33 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/#comment-40718 http://www.6dgr.com/index.php?mode=join&ref_id=23175 This is the link if you want to join. Paul http://www.6dgr.com/index.php?.....f_id=23175
This is the link if you want to join.

Paul

]]> By: Paul http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/comment-page-2/#comment-40717 Paul Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:01:24 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/05/14/zenzuu-the-social-network-with-a-one-track-mind/#comment-40717 I am a Zenzuu member with a pretty large network. My members are loosing faith in Zenzuu and most of them are not active anymore (when will I get paid???). I recently joined another social network which does pay its members. Some make thousands of dollars. My strategy is to build another large down-line with this network and get my members paid. This way I recreate believe and by the time Zenzuu is in the position to pay its members, we all will join as a complete network, putting us in the position of an instant 2nd income-stream. Feel free to join and really start making money with a social network. Please respond at sixdgr@yahoo.com or at Skype. My Skype name is Jackpot4u Regards, Paul I am a Zenzuu member with a pretty large network.
My members are loosing faith in Zenzuu and most of them are not active anymore (when will I get paid???).
I recently joined another social network which does pay its members. Some make thousands of dollars.
My strategy is to build another large down-line with this network and get my members paid.
This way I recreate believe and by the time Zenzuu is in the position to pay its members, we all will join as a complete network, putting us in the position of an instant 2nd income-stream. Feel free to join and really start making money with a social network. Please respond at sixdgr@yahoo.com or at Skype. My Skype name is Jackpot4u

Regards,
Paul

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