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	<description>Let's just see what happens</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/08/23/a-word-processor-i-want/comment-page-1/#comment-38018</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Know I&#039;m late on this, David, but your original post inspired me to look around. For Windows I think the most impressive is Liquid Story Binder XE from www.blackobelisksoftware.com . It allows versioning, and has a host of other tools for writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know I&#8217;m late on this, David, but your original post inspired me to look around. For Windows I think the most impressive is Liquid Story Binder XE from <a href="http://www.blackobelisksoftware.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackobelisksoftwar.....e.com</a> . It allows versioning, and has a host of other tools for writers.</p>
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		<title>By: G. L. Dryfoos</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/08/23/a-word-processor-i-want/comment-page-1/#comment-37852</link>
		<dc:creator>G. L. Dryfoos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emacs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emacs.</p>
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		<title>By: Barney</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/08/23/a-word-processor-i-want/comment-page-1/#comment-37841</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, first of all you have to acknowledge that the word processor doesn&#039;t have a particular feature you want but has hundreds you probably don&#039;t want. How about something that just lets you write? That&#039;s what I do miss about typewriters — no stylistic considerations, no spell-check, no buttons, just what you&#039;ve written in front of you. Judging from the brief mention of typewriters you give, maybe you&#039;re not fatally attracted to that aspect of a minimalist writing environment. But for those who are, I&#039;d recommend WriteRoom for Mac, Dark Room for PC and PyRoom for *nix. They&#039;re all pretty much the same thing — just darkness and your text with no graphic interface. You can customise the look and format of the text (and change the background and text colours) to make uyourself comfortable, and then it&#039;s just you and your text. Brilliant.

For SVN ( which is great great great for revising work — and revising and writing should be kept as separate tasks), I recommend Versions for Mac, Tortoise for PC and Rapid SVN for *nix. They all offer sensible visual interfaces for easily comparing versions of your work through time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, first of all you have to acknowledge that the word processor doesn&#8217;t have a particular feature you want but has hundreds you probably don&#8217;t want. How about something that just lets you write? That&#8217;s what I do miss about typewriters — no stylistic considerations, no spell-check, no buttons, just what you&#8217;ve written in front of you. Judging from the brief mention of typewriters you give, maybe you&#8217;re not fatally attracted to that aspect of a minimalist writing environment. But for those who are, I&#8217;d recommend WriteRoom for Mac, Dark Room for PC and PyRoom for *nix. They&#8217;re all pretty much the same thing — just darkness and your text with no graphic interface. You can customise the look and format of the text (and change the background and text colours) to make uyourself comfortable, and then it&#8217;s just you and your text. Brilliant.</p>
<p>For SVN ( which is great great great for revising work — and revising and writing should be kept as separate tasks), I recommend Versions for Mac, Tortoise for PC and Rapid SVN for *nix. They all offer sensible visual interfaces for easily comparing versions of your work through time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Fowler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Gotcha. I do have both of those advantages using LaTeX and SVN, though. I can use comments to have hidden versions of sentences. I can describe my versions with the commits. It has its downsides. It&#039;s not WYSIWYG. It&#039;s a bit of a learning curve. It provides a slew of headaches. But once it&#039;s setup, you just write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Gotcha. I do have both of those advantages using LaTeX and SVN, though. I can use comments to have hidden versions of sentences. I can describe my versions with the commits. It has its downsides. It&#8217;s not WYSIWYG. It&#8217;s a bit of a learning curve. It provides a slew of headaches. But once it&#8217;s setup, you just write.</p>
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		<title>By: davidw</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, islamoyankee. I tried it once, but I&#039;ll give it another look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, islamoyankee. I tried it once, but I&#8217;ll give it another look.</p>
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		<title>By: islamoyankee</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/08/23/a-word-processor-i-want/comment-page-1/#comment-37743</link>
		<dc:creator>islamoyankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check out scrivener

http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check out scrivener</p>
<p><a href="http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.literatureandlatte......vener.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Fienberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Fienberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that you imagine your word processor in terms of music composition / recording software. The music recording software I use (MOTU Digital Performer) does pretty much everything you wish for, and more, in terms of allowing what&#039;s ultimately a linear work to be put together as overlapping and non-linear chunks / branches / tracks / takes / structures / mixes.

It&#039;s quite a good example, that lots of other kinds of software should ideally emulate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that you imagine your word processor in terms of music composition / recording software. The music recording software I use (MOTU Digital Performer) does pretty much everything you wish for, and more, in terms of allowing what&#8217;s ultimately a linear work to be put together as overlapping and non-linear chunks / branches / tracks / takes / structures / mixes.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite a good example, that lots of other kinds of software should ideally emulate.</p>
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		<title>By: davidw</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I&#039;m not looking for versioning, exactly. I want somehow to be able to type in a sentence while keeping the old one there, so I can see them side by side. That&#039;s different than versioning the entire doc and then running a diff. 

I do use Google Docs, btw. And if it were versioning, I&#039;d like features that Google Docs don&#039;t give, such as naming versions so I can remember that that was the one where I tried this, and that one was when I was trying that.

But my real point is that I&#039;d like to see someone design a word processor with an eye to how we actually write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I&#8217;m not looking for versioning, exactly. I want somehow to be able to type in a sentence while keeping the old one there, so I can see them side by side. That&#8217;s different than versioning the entire doc and then running a diff. </p>
<p>I do use Google Docs, btw. And if it were versioning, I&#8217;d like features that Google Docs don&#8217;t give, such as naming versions so I can remember that that was the one where I tried this, and that one was when I was trying that.</p>
<p>But my real point is that I&#8217;d like to see someone design a word processor with an eye to how we actually write.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Fowler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

I&#039;ve been saying that for years. Word processors need versioning, and it would be a very easy thing to build into a program, especially with the advent of open document formats based on XML, and with the proliferation of SQLite being embedded in programs. It seems like 

You know, the word processor in the Google Docs suite does pretty much all of what you mentioned, though. It lacks certain bells and whistles that the big boys like Word, Word Perfect, and Mellel have, but it does have versioning that allows you to compare revisions.

Having some programming experience, I use a version control program (SVN) to let me keep versions of my documents, and I am trying to write in LaTeX when I can. With this scheme, I have a really skinny versions of my documents, I can convert them into great looking pdfs, I can maintain versions of the file, and I have lots of copies in lots of places to keep them safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been saying that for years. Word processors need versioning, and it would be a very easy thing to build into a program, especially with the advent of open document formats based on XML, and with the proliferation of SQLite being embedded in programs. It seems like </p>
<p>You know, the word processor in the Google Docs suite does pretty much all of what you mentioned, though. It lacks certain bells and whistles that the big boys like Word, Word Perfect, and Mellel have, but it does have versioning that allows you to compare revisions.</p>
<p>Having some programming experience, I use a version control program (SVN) to let me keep versions of my documents, and I am trying to write in LaTeX when I can. With this scheme, I have a really skinny versions of my documents, I can convert them into great looking pdfs, I can maintain versions of the file, and I have lots of copies in lots of places to keep them safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I start out out with copious notes written by pen and then open TextEdit on my Mac laptop and a Word document alongside it. I then begin writing and cut and paste from the Word doc to TextEdit where I compare paragraphs. I then make any revisions in the Word doc. Somewhat convoluted I know but I end up with two versions of an essay - the final version in Word and a mangled but original version in TextEdit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I start out out with copious notes written by pen and then open TextEdit on my Mac laptop and a Word document alongside it. I then begin writing and cut and paste from the Word doc to TextEdit where I compare paragraphs. I then make any revisions in the Word doc. Somewhat convoluted I know but I end up with two versions of an essay &#8211; the final version in Word and a mangled but original version in TextEdit.</p>
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