Comments on: Web 3.0 has been canceled for lack of linearity http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/ Let's just see what happens Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:55:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Marco Massarotto http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/comment-page-1/#comment-38759 Marco Massarotto Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:24:05 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/#comment-38759 I'm so proud this post was written wihile you were guest in our offices :) I’m so proud this post was written wihile you were guest in our offices :)

]]> By: Sara, Ms. Adventures in Italy http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/comment-page-1/#comment-38697 Sara, Ms. Adventures in Italy Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:10:07 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/#comment-38697 When I heard someone ask you that question, I cringed inside. I feel it's often a way for the asker to show others they really don't understand the Internet to begin with...especially when looking for a concrete answer from just one person! It was great to meet you. I hope you continue to wear your collector's "pin" and it will become even more valuable after November 4th. When I heard someone ask you that question, I cringed inside. I feel it’s often a way for the asker to show others they really don’t understand the Internet to begin with…especially when looking for a concrete answer from just one person!

It was great to meet you. I hope you continue to wear your collector’s “pin” and it will become even more valuable after November 4th.

]]> By: Bryan Alexander http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/comment-page-1/#comment-38627 Bryan Alexander Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:46:55 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/#comment-38627 I get asked this from time to time in higher ed. Not very often, actually. So I usually mention that there are a few different ideas: -semantic Web, for collections one owns -programmable Web, running on content others have semantically marked up -mobile Web -social-graph-centered web ...and that one Gartner analyst's joke, that it should be called Web 2.1. I get asked this from time to time in higher ed. Not very often, actually.
So I usually mention that there are a few different ideas:
-semantic Web, for collections one owns
-programmable Web, running on content others have semantically marked up
-mobile Web
-social-graph-centered web
…and that one Gartner analyst’s joke, that it should be called Web 2.1.

]]> By: Whatever Will We Call It? http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/comment-page-1/#comment-38611 Whatever Will We Call It? Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:31:29 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/#comment-38611 [...] Weinberger, author of the excellent Everything is Miscellaneous, says he is often asked what web 3.0 will [...] [...] Weinberger, author of the excellent Everything is Miscellaneous, says he is often asked what web 3.0 will [...]

]]> By: Kelley Bevans http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/comment-page-1/#comment-38610 Kelley Bevans Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:44:28 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/#comment-38610 I am seeing the real challenge of web 2.0 is determining the meaning or implications of the content provided through social media. I think web 3.0 will be an attempt to coalesce around an understanding of the new social relations implied by social media (or if in fact they are even new) and an attempt to coalesce around the meaning of content created by social media. My guess is that some of the impetus around this coalescence will be progressive, but that there will also be a regressive push to brand and control social media by creating more gated social media products to impose meaning staking out a claim of coherence as a value proposition. I am seeing the real challenge of web 2.0 is determining the meaning or implications of the content provided through social media. I think web 3.0 will be an attempt to coalesce around an understanding of the new social relations implied by social media (or if in fact they are even new) and an attempt to coalesce around the meaning of content created by social media. My guess is that some of the impetus around this coalescence will be progressive, but that there will also be a regressive push to brand and control social media by creating more gated social media products to impose meaning staking out a claim of coherence as a value proposition.

]]> By: Jon Husband http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/comment-page-1/#comment-38609 Jon Husband Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:25:35 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/#comment-38609 I suspect that as the years roll on, we will see repeating patterns of activities, structure and results develop. The use of the Web involves its technical "architecture" combined with the constraints (if that's what we can call it) of purposeful human behaviour. That messy human behaviour ... there's a reason why we are supposed to learn from history, even when it did not involve using the Web. I've often wondered if looking backwards from (say) 100 or 200 years from now whether human activities in interlinked digital networks, made visual, will somehow resemble fractals. I suspect that as the years roll on, we will see repeating patterns of activities, structure and results develop. The use of the Web involves its technical “architecture” combined with the constraints (if that’s what we can call it) of purposeful human behaviour.

That messy human behaviour … there’s a reason why we are supposed to learn from history, even when it did not involve using the Web. I’ve often wondered if looking backwards from (say) 100 or 200 years from now whether human activities in interlinked digital networks, made visual, will somehow resemble fractals.

]]> By: Crosbie Fitch http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/comment-page-1/#comment-38608 Crosbie Fitch Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:31:02 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/#comment-38608 <b>Web Free</b> is the web that finally sheds itself of the shackles that attach to the metaphors it inherited from the print media world. The major shackle is copyright - the idea that reproduction and distribution must be monopolised for the benefit of publishers. The minor shackle is the idea that art must be encumbered by advertising, that audiences are there for artists and/or their publishers to exploit. The Internet, the Web, is an instantaneous diffusion device. It offers far more efficient and accurate communications. Shackling its use in order to sell liberty is backward. Broadcasting annoying messages to all in order to reach a few is counter-productive. So, neutralise your copyright (it'll be abolished eventually anyway) and cleanse your publications of pollution (3rd party advertisements). Communicate and deal with your audience as customers, directly. Give up the barbaric practices of manacling their hands and selling their eyeballs. Web Free is the web that finally sheds itself of the shackles that attach to the metaphors it inherited from the print media world.

The major shackle is copyright – the idea that reproduction and distribution must be monopolised for the benefit of publishers.

The minor shackle is the idea that art must be encumbered by advertising, that audiences are there for artists and/or their publishers to exploit.

The Internet, the Web, is an instantaneous diffusion device. It offers far more efficient and accurate communications.

Shackling its use in order to sell liberty is backward. Broadcasting annoying messages to all in order to reach a few is counter-productive.

So, neutralise your copyright (it’ll be abolished eventually anyway) and cleanse your publications of pollution (3rd party advertisements). Communicate and deal with your audience as customers, directly. Give up the barbaric practices of manacling their hands and selling their eyeballs.

]]> By: Bob Filipczak http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/comment-page-1/#comment-38607 Bob Filipczak Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:26:17 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/#comment-38607 Or will Web 3.0 be a pedulum swing away from the unpredictable, a kind of settling down of the environment? Can any environment be tumultuous ad infinitum? Or will the Web will settle upon a generally agreed-upon level of structure and organization? We certainly can't "know," but we can guess, cant' we? Or will Web 3.0 be a pedulum swing away from the unpredictable, a kind of settling down of the environment? Can any environment be tumultuous ad infinitum? Or will the Web will settle upon a generally agreed-upon level of structure and organization?

We certainly can’t “know,” but we can guess, cant’ we?

]]> By: gianluca http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/comment-page-1/#comment-38606 gianluca Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:39:18 +0000 http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/10/06/web-30-has-been-canceled-for-lack-of-linearity/#comment-38606 web 2.0 + web 1.0 = web 3.0 no ? web 2.0 + web 1.0 = web 3.0

no ?

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