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		<title>By: Unit Structures &#8211; SearchWiki, Groupthink and Privacy</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/11/23/google-seachwikis-surprising-missteps/comment-page-1/#comment-39752</link>
		<dc:creator>Unit Structures &#8211; SearchWiki, Groupthink and Privacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SearchWiki.  Thankfully, there seems to be a solution to the problem of name association.  Dave Weinberger noticed &#8220;[T]he results page shows you the nicknames of other users who have voted the page [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] SearchWiki.  Thankfully, there seems to be a solution to the problem of name association.  Dave Weinberger noticed &#8220;[T]he results page shows you the nicknames of other users who have voted the page [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/11/23/google-seachwikis-surprising-missteps/comment-page-1/#comment-39734</link>
		<dc:creator>Anil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every one is opt out, first time you use the feature you are asked to confirm it. If the dim buttons are the problem then grease monkey should help, logout is another option.

The &#039;misstep&#039; will achieve one thing for sure, It will test the entire hoax of web 2.0, where user feeds the content back. If its not a hoax, well we have the world&#039;s largest web 2.0 service.

If google&#039;s intention are in doubt, we have crossed that line way ago. With billions of search every minute, google analytics working on millions of websites, we have serious issue. If google wants, at any day it can generate a fine blueprint of our internet behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every one is opt out, first time you use the feature you are asked to confirm it. If the dim buttons are the problem then grease monkey should help, logout is another option.</p>
<p>The &#8216;misstep&#8217; will achieve one thing for sure, It will test the entire hoax of web 2.0, where user feeds the content back. If its not a hoax, well we have the world&#8217;s largest web 2.0 service.</p>
<p>If google&#8217;s intention are in doubt, we have crossed that line way ago. With billions of search every minute, google analytics working on millions of websites, we have serious issue. If google wants, at any day it can generate a fine blueprint of our internet behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Google&#8217;s experimenting with new search features - elearnspace</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/11/23/google-seachwikis-surprising-missteps/comment-page-1/#comment-39733</link>
		<dc:creator>Google&#8217;s experimenting with new search features - elearnspace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] others see. It&#8217;s supposed to help personalize search. Results are mixed. Some hate it. Others question it. Others love [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] others see. It&#8217;s supposed to help personalize search. Results are mixed. Some hate it. Others question it. Others love [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Plutor</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/11/23/google-seachwikis-surprising-missteps/comment-page-1/#comment-39729</link>
		<dc:creator>Plutor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is a feature without value — the list of names isn’t clickable or complete or tell you how many people voted it up — unless you recognize someone’s nickname, in which case it has negative value. &quot;

It only has negative value if you assume that people will only be voting up links that they&#039;re embarassed having searched on or voted for.  If I see that a specific result for my search on rocket ship fuels was voted up by &quot;rhgoddard&quot;, that would be positive value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is a feature without value — the list of names isn’t clickable or complete or tell you how many people voted it up — unless you recognize someone’s nickname, in which case it has negative value. &#8221;</p>
<p>It only has negative value if you assume that people will only be voting up links that they&#8217;re embarassed having searched on or voted for.  If I see that a specific result for my search on rocket ship fuels was voted up by &#8220;rhgoddard&#8221;, that would be positive value.</p>
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		<title>By: davidw</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/11/23/google-seachwikis-surprising-missteps/comment-page-1/#comment-39724</link>
		<dc:creator>davidw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessamyn, they must have asked me. I must not have noticed or paid attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessamyn, they must have asked me. I must not have noticed or paid attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessamyn</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/11/23/google-seachwikis-surprising-missteps/comment-page-1/#comment-39723</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessamyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://flickr.com/photos/iamthebestartist/3056736898/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I was asked&lt;/a&gt; before the first time I used this feature and decided not to use it. They did mention my nickname would be visible. Is that a new addition since a few days ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/iamthebestartist/3056736898/" rel="nofollow">I was asked</a> before the first time I used this feature and decided not to use it. They did mention my nickname would be visible. Is that a new addition since a few days ago?</p>
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		<title>By: michaelzimmer.org &#187; Archives &#187; SearchWiki: Boon for Google, Bust for Privacy</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/11/23/google-seachwikis-surprising-missteps/comment-page-1/#comment-39722</link>
		<dc:creator>michaelzimmer.org &#187; Archives &#187; SearchWiki: Boon for Google, Bust for Privacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David Weinberger has revealed how Google&#8217;s SearchWiki automatically displays the user name of other searchers who have voted to increase a page&#8217;s ranking. As Weinberger explains: So, now the whole world will see that “dweinberger” not only searched for “Angelina Jolie” but thumbs-upped the page of closeups of her tattoos? Guess who just changed his nickname to something less identifiable! This is a feature without value — the list of names isn’t clickable or complete or tell you how many people voted it up — unless you recognize someone’s nickname, in which case it has negative value. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] David Weinberger has revealed how Google&#8217;s SearchWiki automatically displays the user name of other searchers who have voted to increase a page&#8217;s ranking. As Weinberger explains: So, now the whole world will see that “dweinberger” not only searched for “Angelina Jolie” but thumbs-upped the page of closeups of her tattoos? Guess who just changed his nickname to something less identifiable! This is a feature without value — the list of names isn’t clickable or complete or tell you how many people voted it up — unless you recognize someone’s nickname, in which case it has negative value. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: silverman</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/11/23/google-seachwikis-surprising-missteps/comment-page-1/#comment-39721</link>
		<dc:creator>silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correct website now for recent post please</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correct website now for recent post please</p>
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		<title>By: silverman</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/11/23/google-seachwikis-surprising-missteps/comment-page-1/#comment-39720</link>
		<dc:creator>silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>faster access to higher-quality information.

(Google official blog, Nov. 24th / 21st / at 4:55:00 PM)

faster access to higher-quality information.

 faster access up-yer-ass


We are excited to announce we were able to sort 1TB (stored on the Google File System as 10 
billion 100-byte records in uncompressed text files) on 1,000 computers in 68 seconds. By 
comparison, the previous 1TB sorting record is 209 seconds on 910 computers.

 big deal


(Prediction: they are going to get clogged.)



    The prediciton is:
They will get clogged.  It won&#039;t be by the technology in the sense that they will meet some 

limit on the supersonic speed demon aspect but they will still get clogged.  Then they&#039;ll be 

scratching their heads: Gee, why didn&#039;t this stuff work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>faster access to higher-quality information.</p>
<p>(Google official blog, Nov. 24th / 21st / at 4:55:00 PM)</p>
<p>faster access to higher-quality information.</p>
<p> faster access up-yer-ass</p>
<p>We are excited to announce we were able to sort 1TB (stored on the Google File System as 10<br />
billion 100-byte records in uncompressed text files) on 1,000 computers in 68 seconds. By<br />
comparison, the previous 1TB sorting record is 209 seconds on 910 computers.</p>
<p> big deal</p>
<p>(Prediction: they are going to get clogged.)</p>
<p>    The prediciton is:<br />
They will get clogged.  It won&#8217;t be by the technology in the sense that they will meet some </p>
<p>limit on the supersonic speed demon aspect but they will still get clogged.  Then they&#8217;ll be </p>
<p>scratching their heads: Gee, why didn&#8217;t this stuff work?</p>
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		<title>By: Unit Structures &#8211; Serious Privacy Issues with Google SearchWiki</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2008/11/23/google-seachwikis-surprising-missteps/comment-page-1/#comment-39718</link>
		<dc:creator>Unit Structures &#8211; Serious Privacy Issues with Google SearchWiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Weinberger highlights a stunning oversight by Google&#8217;s SearchWiki team (bold mine): [T]he results page shows you the nicknames of other users who have voted the page up. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Weinberger highlights a stunning oversight by Google&#8217;s SearchWiki team (bold mine): [T]he results page shows you the nicknames of other users who have voted the page up. [...]</p>
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