<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: News is a river is a blog&#8230;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/</link>
	<description>Let's just see what happens</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:24:11 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Golden ISA</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55952</link>
		<dc:creator>Golden ISA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 04:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/#comment-55952</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The line was that the &#039;pieces of people&#039;s knowledge&#039; faculty be floating in much scheme, with newest ideas collecting on a shallow, and the senior ones sedimenting at the &#039;bottom&#039;. One could physically &#039;steer&#039; the tune flows, equivalent the leaves floating on the shallow of installation.

Interaction was truly handsome and genre, and at the self reading intuitively understandable. I cerebrate, this method is comfort upward of many coeval concepts. 
======================
ruthallen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The line was that the &#8216;pieces of people&#8217;s knowledge&#8217; faculty be floating in much scheme, with newest ideas collecting on a shallow, and the senior ones sedimenting at the &#8216;bottom&#8217;. One could physically &#8216;steer&#8217; the tune flows, equivalent the leaves floating on the shallow of installation.</p>
<p>Interaction was truly handsome and genre, and at the self reading intuitively understandable. I cerebrate, this method is comfort upward of many coeval concepts.<br />
======================<br />
ruthallen</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-50158</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/#comment-50158</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[This story is completely inaccurate. Can you please point out one story on lex18.com that was not reported on air? The stories are still sorted into categories on under the news section. Only the homepage changed the way content is posted. The same content is posted as was posted before the change, it&#039;s just presented differently and there is more emphasis on posting stories, so as soon as information comes into the newsroom, it is put online, rather than waiting until after a newscast to post a story online.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story is completely inaccurate. Can you please point out one story on lex18.com that was not reported on air? The stories are still sorted into categories on under the news section. Only the homepage changed the way content is posted. The same content is posted as was posted before the change, it&#8217;s just presented differently and there is more emphasis on posting stories, so as soon as information comes into the newsroom, it is put online, rather than waiting until after a newscast to post a story online.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: milton howard</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-49998</link>
		<dc:creator>milton howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/#comment-49998</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[users are people. obviously. they are not robots.

and people/users are busy. they dont have time to f-around with stupid stuff 

(unless it is by choice and putting 15 crappy stories in the random order they came over the scanner or email press release so you have to scroll to the actual news is NOT by choice. it is BLOCKING the news)

besides that, only someone as ridiculous as a pollyanna/fool would talk about &quot;humane beauty&quot; and obviously NOT understand the value brand of journalism associated with something like a TV station, which spends hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to define that brand.

audiences (people) LOOK to brands that exist for a reason: to filter the junk from their lives so they can make decisions FASTER about what is important and what isnt. it&#039;s called a value proposition!!!

I can still find all the crap I want on a conventional news site. but, I at least get it presented to me with the generally most-important stuff first

anyone who wants to try to destroy -- even more than it is already being destroyed -- the brand value of a news organization is a fool.

news companies need to separate themselves FROM blogs to show the VALUE they bring to people&#039;s lives (the ability to filter out cats up trees)...

this stupid WLEX move just makes users think: why bother going to WLEX, I might as well go to some random &quot;community blog&quot; and sift through all the junk there so I can find the &quot;poetic&quot;

wlex is dumber than I could have ever imagined. and to think they spent $300,000 on a BLOG!!!

fools.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>users are people. obviously. they are not robots.</p>
<p>and people/users are busy. they dont have time to f-around with stupid stuff </p>
<p>(unless it is by choice and putting 15 crappy stories in the random order they came over the scanner or email press release so you have to scroll to the actual news is NOT by choice. it is BLOCKING the news)</p>
<p>besides that, only someone as ridiculous as a pollyanna/fool would talk about &#8220;humane beauty&#8221; and obviously NOT understand the value brand of journalism associated with something like a TV station, which spends hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to define that brand.</p>
<p>audiences (people) LOOK to brands that exist for a reason: to filter the junk from their lives so they can make decisions FASTER about what is important and what isnt. it&#8217;s called a value proposition!!!</p>
<p>I can still find all the crap I want on a conventional news site. but, I at least get it presented to me with the generally most-important stuff first</p>
<p>anyone who wants to try to destroy &#8212; even more than it is already being destroyed &#8212; the brand value of a news organization is a fool.</p>
<p>news companies need to separate themselves FROM blogs to show the VALUE they bring to people&#8217;s lives (the ability to filter out cats up trees)&#8230;</p>
<p>this stupid WLEX move just makes users think: why bother going to WLEX, I might as well go to some random &#8220;community blog&#8221; and sift through all the junk there so I can find the &#8220;poetic&#8221;</p>
<p>wlex is dumber than I could have ever imagined. and to think they spent $300,000 on a BLOG!!!</p>
<p>fools.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Slava Kozlov</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-49983</link>
		<dc:creator>Slava Kozlov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/#comment-49983</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[@ Milton Howard

It&#039;s really ironic (sadly ironic) to see such a comment in the blog of the author of &quot;Everything is Miscellaneous&quot; :(

LiMe system was designed for (and with) people, not &#039;users&#039;. And you know what? People (not users) do care about a &#039;cat stuck in a tree&#039; and damage of neighbor&#039;s car, and myriads of other small life events, the &#039;noise&#039; of life (and not only functional &#039;signal&#039;), which makes life, well, life.  

For the top news of the day we have CNNs and BBCs of this world, whose usability gurus will make sure that their latest news will hit you between your eyes. But for the mundane, banal - human - stuff we don&#039;t need CNNs and BBCs.  

Have you ever spent any time in any of the web-communities (e.g., Facebooks, Livejournals, Orkuts and the likes?). Are their members talking about &#039;the latest news&#039;? No, they rather spend hours and days browsing through  apparently useless stuff - and yet enjoying it!  It seems to be  &#039;useless&#039; only from the point of view of the ever-hyper-efficient &#039;users&#039;.

LiMe was based on a deep ethnographic research of what people do, and what they value, and because of that got overwhelmingly positive feedback from these people. It is when the *managers* started to evaluate its value, and when they start judging its poetic, humane beauty from the &#039;efficiency&#039; and &#039;productivity&#039; criteria, we got the problem.  Or rather they got problem, because of missing both the point, and business opportunity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Milton Howard</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really ironic (sadly ironic) to see such a comment in the blog of the author of &#8220;Everything is Miscellaneous&#8221; :(</p>
<p>LiMe system was designed for (and with) people, not &#8216;users&#8217;. And you know what? People (not users) do care about a &#8216;cat stuck in a tree&#8217; and damage of neighbor&#8217;s car, and myriads of other small life events, the &#8216;noise&#8217; of life (and not only functional &#8216;signal&#8217;), which makes life, well, life.  </p>
<p>For the top news of the day we have CNNs and BBCs of this world, whose usability gurus will make sure that their latest news will hit you between your eyes. But for the mundane, banal &#8211; human &#8211; stuff we don&#8217;t need CNNs and BBCs.  </p>
<p>Have you ever spent any time in any of the web-communities (e.g., Facebooks, Livejournals, Orkuts and the likes?). Are their members talking about &#8216;the latest news&#8217;? No, they rather spend hours and days browsing through  apparently useless stuff &#8211; and yet enjoying it!  It seems to be  &#8216;useless&#8217; only from the point of view of the ever-hyper-efficient &#8216;users&#8217;.</p>
<p>LiMe was based on a deep ethnographic research of what people do, and what they value, and because of that got overwhelmingly positive feedback from these people. It is when the *managers* started to evaluate its value, and when they start judging its poetic, humane beauty from the &#8216;efficiency&#8217; and &#8216;productivity&#8217; criteria, we got the problem.  Or rather they got problem, because of missing both the point, and business opportunity.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: milton howard</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-49967</link>
		<dc:creator>milton howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/#comment-49967</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s an awful interface for a user...

Since the most recent stories go at the top, you could have a cat stuck in a tree, a car hit by a baseball and a beautiful weather forecast (hardly interesting) take up most of the page before you get to any news...

Users have to scroll forever to find anything... the biggest story on the site today was buried.

I wont be going back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an awful interface for a user&#8230;</p>
<p>Since the most recent stories go at the top, you could have a cat stuck in a tree, a car hit by a baseball and a beautiful weather forecast (hardly interesting) take up most of the page before you get to any news&#8230;</p>
<p>Users have to scroll forever to find anything&#8230; the biggest story on the site today was buried.</p>
<p>I wont be going back.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Slava Kozlov</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-49897</link>
		<dc:creator>Slava Kozlov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/09/25/news-is-a-river-is-a-blog/#comment-49897</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Around 1995-7 Philips Design, together with a few partners, developed a concept of a community knowledge portal nicknamed LiMe (Living Memory).  

A River Flow or a Lake were  the metaphors that inspired interface design of the concept (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.idemployee.id.tue.nl/g.w.m.rauterberg/Movies/Living%20Memory/Articles/Philips-2000.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; the paper about the concept)  

The idea was that the &#039;pieces of people&#039;s knowledge&#039; will be floating in such system, with newest ideas gathering on a surface, and the older ones sedimenting at the &#039;bottom&#039;. One could physically &#039;steer&#039;  the idea flows, like the leaves floating on the surface of water.

Interaction was really beautiful and poetic, and at the same time intuitively understandable.  I think, this system is still ahead of many contemporary concepts. 

Too bad, Philips didn&#039;t pursue its commercial application;  if it would, I believe we would be &#039;liming&#039; today, not blogging.  

PS: Another picture can be seen &lt;a href=&quot;.com/preview.jsp?previewImage=preview.html%3Fsid%3D6765051371051%26assetNo%3D1030263%26type%3Dpreview&amp;AssetName=144_living_mem_cafe_t-14.jpg&amp;module=null&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Around 1995-7 Philips Design, together with a few partners, developed a concept of a community knowledge portal nicknamed LiMe (Living Memory).  </p>
<p>A River Flow or a Lake were  the metaphors that inspired interface design of the concept (see <a href="http://www.idemployee.id.tue.nl/g.w.m.rauterberg/Movies/Living%20Memory/Articles/Philips-2000.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a> the paper about the concept)  </p>
<p>The idea was that the &#8216;pieces of people&#8217;s knowledge&#8217; will be floating in such system, with newest ideas gathering on a surface, and the older ones sedimenting at the &#8216;bottom&#8217;. One could physically &#8216;steer&#8217;  the idea flows, like the leaves floating on the surface of water.</p>
<p>Interaction was really beautiful and poetic, and at the same time intuitively understandable.  I think, this system is still ahead of many contemporary concepts. </p>
<p>Too bad, Philips didn&#8217;t pursue its commercial application;  if it would, I believe we would be &#8216;liming&#8217; today, not blogging.  </p>
<p>PS: Another picture can be seen <a href=".com/preview.jsp?previewImage=preview.html%3Fsid%3D6765051371051%26assetNo%3D1030263%26type%3Dpreview&amp;AssetName=144_living_mem_cafe_t-14.jpg&amp;module=null" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Dynamic page generated in 0.374 seconds. -->
<!-- Cached page generated by WP-Super-Cache on 2013-06-16 16:30:14 -->