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	<title>Comments on: [2b2k] Continuing the total re-org</title>
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	<description>Let's just see what happens</description>
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		<title>By: davidw</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2010/01/30/2b2k-continuing-the-total-re-org/comment-page-1/#comment-52167</link>
		<dc:creator>davidw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crosbie, I hadn&#039;t thought of considering that issue, but it&#039;s a fascinating one. Not sure how it fits in with what I&#039;m thinking about, but I&#039;ll take a look at it and learn more. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crosbie, I hadn&#8217;t thought of considering that issue, but it&#8217;s a fascinating one. Not sure how it fits in with what I&#8217;m thinking about, but I&#8217;ll take a look at it and learn more. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Crosbie Fitch</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2010/01/30/2b2k-continuing-the-total-re-org/comment-page-1/#comment-52164</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosbie Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, are you going to address the 2b2k issue that individual software engineers face when they build very large systems? They can understand the whole at a high level, but to understand each component at a low level requires a process of refamiliarisation. After a certain point it can be tricky even to maintain a holistic overview. 

I suggest that it is surprising or amusing that an individual can construct a system that is too big for them to know.

This resonates with &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_of_memory#Architectural_mnemonic&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Architectural mnemonic&lt;/a&gt;. One can construct an intellectual architecture in software that is so vast, that in order to do any maintenance in any one part of it, one must first travel the mnemonic (which takes time). The source is the mnemonic. The mind can only contain a fractional impression.

And this is why programming languages evolve. To make larger architectures mnemonically compact and easier to navigate. Even so, one still ends up with architectures too large to know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, are you going to address the 2b2k issue that individual software engineers face when they build very large systems? They can understand the whole at a high level, but to understand each component at a low level requires a process of refamiliarisation. After a certain point it can be tricky even to maintain a holistic overview. </p>
<p>I suggest that it is surprising or amusing that an individual can construct a system that is too big for them to know.</p>
<p>This resonates with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_of_memory#Architectural_mnemonic" rel="nofollow">Architectural mnemonic</a>. One can construct an intellectual architecture in software that is so vast, that in order to do any maintenance in any one part of it, one must first travel the mnemonic (which takes time). The source is the mnemonic. The mind can only contain a fractional impression.</p>
<p>And this is why programming languages evolve. To make larger architectures mnemonically compact and easier to navigate. Even so, one still ends up with architectures too large to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Weaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty miscellaneous, is it?

Here&#039;s hoping some order and hierarchy suggest themselves soon.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty miscellaneous, is it?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping some order and hierarchy suggest themselves soon.</p>
<p>\-\/\/</p>
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		<title>By: Emil Sotirov</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2010/01/30/2b2k-continuing-the-total-re-org/comment-page-1/#comment-52151</link>
		<dc:creator>Emil Sotirov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...cooking in the dark&quot; - the only way we operate.

Whatever we think of as &quot;light&quot; can&#039;t be but ideology.

From the &quot;Deep Thoughts&quot; Dept... :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;cooking in the dark&#8221; &#8211; the only way we operate.</p>
<p>Whatever we think of as &#8220;light&#8221; can&#8217;t be but ideology.</p>
<p>From the &#8220;Deep Thoughts&#8221; Dept&#8230; :)</p>
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