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April 21, 2003

Self, Truth and Lies

As you probably already know, there's a fascinating thread about authenticity and truth in the selves we're constructing via weblogs. This piece, late in the thread, by Burning Bird is a good place to start. And this piece by Jonathon Delacour is seminal.

I love this topic but I don't see what's specific to weblogging about it. Don't the same questions apply whenever we talk? I have never told an anecdote or story that wasn't fictitious in some sense. Except on the Web, our self is purely public and written, so we can't fall back on the myth of the Inner Private Real person that allows us to act as if there's the possibility of our "outer expressions" corresponding to our Inner Real Self. I.e., the false possibility of authenticity is closed off to us in the virtual world. (I'm burning to say more but I have to go out to a meeting. Ack!)

Posted by D. Weinberger at April 21, 2003 09:07 AM


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Hi I'm from Poland :] It's cool blog

Posted by: Domi | April 21, 2003 04:40 PM


But why should I believe that you're from Poland?

:)

I mean, thanks!

Posted by: dweinberger | April 21, 2003 07:38 PM


MrG, of course there are differences about how we resolve questions of trust and veracity on the Web, and you put it well. I only meant that the *questions* about the veracity of narrators are the same. Not to get all POMO and everything, but the basic issue has to do with the nature of all narrative. And the examples at issue don't lend themselves to googling and other webby means of verification; e.g., when I write that our daughter Leah has noticed some interesting signs about the Iraq war, you're not going to be able to use google to decide if it was really Leah and not my wife or me.

Your second to last paragraph points to a consensus. I don't think so. We choose our "consensus" on the Web. E.g., we choose which mailing lists to belong to.

Posted by: dweinberger | April 22, 2003 05:06 AM


Interesting. My previous post is missing.

Posted by: whois | August 22, 2003 09:39 PM


Yes, interesting. I have only ever removed obvious spams. What was your previous post about?

Posted by: dweinberger | August 23, 2003 08:58 AM


I am writing a novel in blog form. I have an ongoing diary which is the backbone of the story supplemented by background pages such as FAQ.

Please take a look at www.deannasdiary.com and do give me feedback via the site.

Posted by: Charles | January 5, 2005 08:17 AM


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