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I always use local smtp on Windows2000 (via the IIS SMTP service) and Linux (via postfix or sendmail), on my laptop that goes all over so I don't have to rely on an smtp provider. Occasionally you get onto an isp that forces you through their SMTP, but I haven't found that much at client sites.

Conversely, you could run SMTP with postfix or sendmail on your home Linux machine and then SSH into it with port redirection from wherever you are if you've got some sort of dynamic DNS happening.

David:
It's free just for the first month but I was very impressed with OddPost -- an Outlook-like client built in DHTML on a web page; can POP and SMTP mail easily; good spam protector; RSS reader, too.
http://www.oddpost.com/
-jeff

I tried oddpost a while ago and found it was more than I needed. I just want an smtp server.

Here are some recommendations from emails that were sent directly to me in response to my plea:

http://www.fastmail.fm/

http://www.mailtraq.com/323/form.nc

">http://www.postcastserver.com/

I've tried Fastmail.fm/ and it works nicely but it isn't free (although I believe it has a free trial period). $20 per year ain't bad though.

Aloha, David! Why not use PuTTY and set POP and SMTP to localhost? That way you will not only be able to send mail, but also have messages encrypted via SSH. Here is a great tutorial:
http://www.jfitz.com/tips/putty_config.html

Yours Sincerely,

Miles

Fastmail.fm is free (there is a free version) and it provides the features your looking for. I was looking at it mainly for its IMAP features to play around with.

Fastmail.fm has been fast and reliable. Can't recommend it enough.

I also use FastMail.FM and I agree that they are very good but only Members ($15 one-time fee) can use their outgoing SMTP server. I list hundreds of IMAP providers here

http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/#table

and I include information about whether they let users use their outgoing SMTP server and whether users can authenticate using SMTP AUTH (which is much more robust than POP-before-SMTP authentication). Note that free providers often have their SMTP server on blocklists so some of your mail will never get delivered (i.e. when the receiving SMTP server is using the relevant blocklist).

I hope my list helps you find a good SMTP server!
A free trial at a PAY provider is probably the way to go.

I can't recall if you have a spam solution or what it is, but I'm evaluating Knowspam.net for the next 2 weeks. In addition to the spam management features, this service offers an optional SMTP feature that will log addresses of everyone to whom you send mail and add their addresses to your "this is a real person" database.

The service is priced at $19-and-change US per year.

Hi,

I have been using PostCast Server for a while now and found it to be an excellent app ... highly configurable and fast - recommmended

regards,

Chris
:o)

For those who need reliable SMTP, it is better to use your PC as SMTP, by installing some free software like FreeSMPT Server (can be downloaded from www.softstack.com/freesmtp.html) or PostCast Server (downloadable at www.postcastserver.com).

MSN's SMTP is not only one server, it is dynamically changing to diff. one which makes us unable to use a specific one, like mx0.hotmail.com, mx1.hotmail.com etc.

I found a great hidden gem called "St. George's International Email Services", website is http://stgeorges.myvnc.com/mail They offer 30mb of free space and a great fast smtp server.

Mike

I tried signing up for an account with St. George's International Email Services but every time I fill in and click on the submit button, I get this message: The following fields must not be empty: "Account Name".

Is the site still taking in new accounts?

Hi,

Yep. The site is still taking new accounts. There was a bug in the signup site. Should be fixed now.

Cheers,
Admin

New Site is: www.stgeorges.myvnc.com

Have a great day,
Admin

stgeorges.myvnc.com is no more =( it was good while it lasted (about 4 days for me since i signed up), huge inbox storage capacity, no ads, pop3/webmail access. it was heaven! until it went down.

anyway, found another email with 20mb storage (not as big as stgeorges' but good enough). it's www.ezrs.com. good and fast (i hope!)

cheers all!

Hello all!

We have secured new funding! We are glad to let you know that we are back up and running. We've also secured two new servers and faster bandwidth. Sorry for the inconvience guys!

Administration

Hi again guys,

I thought i'd let you know our site is (http://www.stgeorges.myvnc.com) We are here to stay. No more downtime (we all hope), and our company is also making money and we've secured enough emergency funding for the next 10 years as well. So, hopefully, all of you can join us again. We are sorry for the inconvienience that we have caused. Please accept our sincerest apologies. Hope to see you there.

Sincerely,
CEO of St. George's International Email Services

Hi admin (Whoever you are...)

I think it's great. Thanks. Too bad that there is a lack of publicity though. It's nice, and thanks for actually setting this one up that isn't hit with that darn netsky/beagle virus!

Cheers,
J. Sutton

The thought of having a POP/SMTP server locally on my machine is very, very appealing...however, I would like to set it up on my Compaq iPaq PDA running Microsoft PocketPC 2003.

Anyone know of a SMTP or POP server for that platform?

Thanks!!

Mike

just wanted to mention that st georges still seems to have that bug in their registration form...
"Process
The following fields must not be empty: "Account Name""

I've thus far tried 2 windows pc's and 1 linux one.
all of 'em should have cookies and stuff enabled.

any1 else having the same prob? any1 with relations to st georges still about?

PostCast is pretty good, I'm using it as an outgoing-only SMTP server for my web server setup (Win32/Apache/PHP/mySQL).

The one gripe I have about it is that any custom colour schemes screw up the menus... Damn programmers :P

Hey... those of you suggesting to implement an SMTP server on your laptop neglect to think that one might be trying to connect from devices like PDAs and cell phones, like I am. I came here because I'm having relaying problems from my cell phone over GPRS, with earthlink as an ISP.

I just need a free SMTP server I can use.

http://stgeorges.myvnc.com/

You can go there for wap access as well, and it is great, believe me.

When it works, it great.
When it's down...
And it's down again.
About the time you get comfortable, everyone is using your new email address and BAM. St. George is down again. Dead to the point this time that email to support returns undeliverable.

I started using St Georges email recently, and I agree that the down time is problematic. I keep hanging in there because I don't know of any other free providers that offer what they do. Can anyone tell me what is going on, should I stay or should I go??

Think St Georges might be gone for good.

I've known them down before - but as the website and the lot has disappeared methinks they're gonnas.

Probably one of their fire bugs again - eh?

I'm keeping my eye on a new service - if it lasts for more than a month I'll post some info on here.

Colin

i agree with all of you about the downtime. i'm a new user of st george also. but seems two days already that they are down. i hope they will still make this online since they are the only pop email service that offer huge mailbox

Can't wait any longer.
Free is only good if it works and looks like St Georges is not. You may be right colin, must have been one of the fire bugs that did it. ( was that weird or what )
I have found more free email, huge ones. I signed up for 3. I test them all for 30 days and may the best one win. Have a look at these:
spymac.com
Bluebottle.com
nerdshack.com (really )

All pop3 and smtp

Good luck

I've been using fastmail.fm for the past year. It's not free, but it's damn close. And it usually works.

(BTW, Yahoo just bought oddpost.)

Jerry,

Nerdshack.com is the one I mentioned. I've been testing for a couple of weeks now and touch wood no problems. The only thing about them is it may not be pop/smtp forever - from what I can find out they intend to start a 1gb webmail only service in the future and untill that is up and running the current 100mb pop service is on offer. So if you want pop later on it may not be there.

Spymac I've had for a couple of months now - I've found the pop3 server to be very unreliable - this past week alone I've only been able to access it once - so I've been using the webmail option which is a pain as there's a lot of glue to wade through. Smtp is superfast though. I'm not impressed with it free or not - and I see now they're starting to offer paid services so I think if those are well recieved the free one could well get dropped.

Blubottle I don't know - but I'll give em a try.

Nerdshack is good - I just hope the pop3 stays when the webmail comes fully alive.

Colin

Hello. I have also relaized that St. Georges Email is down. Does anyone know how long? This is a real bad time since we use there accoints for company email and we cannot get a hold of SGIES or the server. This is bad news, and on of my other co-workers was the one who convinced our staff that this would be a prize investment and now he and I are trying to figure out what is wrong and are considering opening temporary previous gmail accounts again because there server is down. This is a problem but we hope it can get fixed and prevented...cause we rely on SGIES. Thanks. :O :)

SGIES is indeed down, probably for good. I found that the entire myvnc.com domain was registered under no-ip.com, a dynamic DNS service; I emailed their support dept. asking about stgeorges and got this response:
"
Thank you for using the No-IP.com Support Ticket System. The following response is from a No-IP support team member:

Date: Jul 20, 2004 (3:47pm PDT)
From: No-IP Support

Hello,

stgeorges.myvnc.com was a host created through our free service. The owner of that host deleted his account on 7/14.

Their mail service was not run by Vitalwerks or No-IP, we simply provided DNS for them. Also, as far as I know we have only received one other query concerning this account and that really didn't make any sense to us. Thanks for making it clear. Unfortunately since we aren't their hosting provider, only their DNS provider, we don't have access to any of the data they may hold.

It appears they were running the service off a DSL line from Canadian provider Telus.net (mytelus.net). The last logged IP was 154.20.86.10 on 7/14, 06:47:53pm PST.

Unfortunately that is all the information I have available.

It's also interesting to note that it was all run from a dynamic DNS provider and DSL line.. I do hope it wasn't all set up to phish for passwords and/or private information.. as it stands, the only link we have to whatever it might have been is that IP address no-ip provided me.. hope this helps if you need to figure out what happened to it; I'm going to move onto a more reliable free email provider, myself.

Wait, is SGIES down for good? Explain.

It certainly looks like it. If they indeed deleted their DNS record / dynamic DNS account intentionally, it certainly points to SGIES being 'gone for good'.. but what the hell, I'll check once a day to see if they've resurfaced with some other incredible explanation for their disappearance. Maybe this time there was a moose stampede which destroyed all their servers?

I know of a company who emailed the CEO of SGIES ocassionally a week, and he told me they seemed legit, showed them the type of servers they run and set up accoutns for them. Now they disaperared. They were gone before...whats so diffrernt now that we didnt know before. This is wierd.

Going on a week it's been out, now.. looks like I'm gonna have to find another email proider. *sigh*. And I just gave this address to a lot of people, too..

Well, I guess we get what we pay for.

There must be a way to investigate what really happened. This sucks, I had plenty of email contacts their. WE HAVE TO FIND out...also what is the best alternative emial provider anyonse suggests?

I used to use SGIES and just come across this when searching for info on what happened. I have set up a new account on www.123mail.co.uk which I must say does look very good.

Since SG went away I have been using both BlueBottle and SpyMac. I must say, I can't deside. They are both great. SpyMac has the more attractive web interface but, Bluebottle has a great verification process that will not allow email through unless you approve the sender. That is great. SpyMac also has a gig of email storage, web site, Blog, image storage if you need / would like all that. I just need reliable email and I bring it down to my Outlook.
You deside. Have a great weekend.

Where's SGIES! They can't just disspear of the face of the earth!

They did. Read above. Deleted their website and vanished.

Umm....

They're still there...

I just checked....lol

Aha! Something told me they wouldn't just disappear forever. Glad I left my stgeorges account in my Outlook Express accounts list, even though it gave me an error every time I checked my mail..

To all users:

If you are reading this email, we sincerely thank you for rejoining SGIES. We know you have a billion of questions on your mind, and we will, right now, try out best to solve everything out.

We were placed under court order from an organization (whose name cannot be mentioned) because we were accused of a matter than cannot be disclosed. We were ordered to shut down our site without any information. Rest assured, our site is back online now, and should continue to stay online. Please accept our most sincerest apologies, but we have taken this time to improve the quality of our services and to upgrade almost all of our servers.

Sincerely,

Support Staff>br>

And:

Hello,

To start off this email, I would sincerely like to apologize for the inconvieniences that the sudden 'disappearance' of our email services have caused. Please be assured that it is most likely that this will not happen again.

We were under court order to shutdown our services without notification to our users immediately. Most of the materials of this court session have been deemed as confidential, but we are assured that this will not happen again.

On a bright side, we were paid a quite substantial amount of money to compensate for our losses. We have used this money to purchase new servers. We hope that you accept our sincerest apologies and continue to use our services. For those who provided us with an alternate contact address, we did our best to notify you. If you have not already done so, please email our survey staff (survey@stgeorges.myvnc.com)

Please note we are extremely sorry.

Best regards,

President and CEO of VW Global Unified Comm.

president@vwglobal.myvnc.com

2004-07-23

Damn, sorry about no line breaks. Looks like they didn't wrap to fit.

I'd recommend nerdshack.com which has been around for a few weeks now.

Web mail is currently a bit plain (as of now just in beta) - but pop/smtp very reliable.

Box is 100mb - but I asked if I could have a bit more and promptly got upgraded to 200mb - can't complain about that.

Colin

Hello,

Glad many of our users post on the blog here. Just thought i'd let you know personally that all is well now. We have been reassured that something like this won't happen again. Please trust us, we're ever so sorry. Please accept our sincerest apologies.

President and CEO of VW Global Unified Comm.
president@vwglobal.myvnc.com

Please note that SGIES (http://stgeorges.myvnc.com) email provider is now offering free 500mb email services with free pop3/imap/smtp support.

I notice on the restored stgeorges.myvnc.com page that they no longer accept Yahoo group messages.

One minute they didn't - then they did - now they don't again. I wonder if this is what got them into trouble - mass storage of naughty pics.

Offering 500mb is asking for trouble when it comes to storing binaries and them Yahoo and other determined people can easily find a way to get around the groups thing - it was done before with another free outfit I tried and they folded because of it.

I don't think I'll be going back again as I can't see it lasting.

Colin

Damned - the word wrapping on this page has gone to pot - sorry about that.

Colin

Well, I can't agree with you colin though...

I got a personal message from the president. Let's all keep in mind that SGIES did keep their promise. They said that they wouldn't fold without giving their users two months of advance notice. They haven't folded yet. They've come back, and are stronger than ever!

St. George's is working. Now Nerdshack is down. :)

SGIES is back on the map. Do u think it is for good? Google still has 1 GB and so does spymac, but SGIES is better. Even though, I CANNOT access my SPYMAC 100MB web spacw, WHY NOT!

I think that SGIES kicks butt. No service will beat it, and I was personally assured that this won't happen again. So, hey, i'm back to SGIES, and their servers are really really fast now!

You guys do what you want...

But I know i'm staying with SGIES after the commitment they made on their site (http://stgeorges.myvnc.com/commitment)

I think they're the best!

Hey John, what u mean personally assured, u got 500MB right, but how u know it will last, for free?

Well,

Considering the President of SGIES apologized to me personally, and their commitment is sound. If you take a look at their servers and assets, it's impossible for them to just "dissappear". They're an honest bunch, and i've grown to trust them, that's all.

The Nerdshack had a hard drive lock up over the weekend, and nobody was there to reboot the server.

John,
How many times are you going to tell us "I got a personal message from the president". Do you work for them or what? We all got the same messages. Even as far as the pictures of the new servers, even they admit that "they look just like the pictures of someone elses servers". Humm. In the last 3 months, they have been down because of fire, court order, virus, hardware failure..... I'm not one to look a free horse in the mouth but come on. In the last 3 weeks, they were under court order to shutdown, don't tell anyone, delete all evidence that you ever existed, go to court, win your case including money, get paid the money, use the money to buy new servers, configure them all and jump back into operation as if you never went away? You can't even get on Judge Judy in 3 weeks!
I'm just gong to hang and see what happens. Not going to rely on SG for my primary email, not for a while. I'm going to wait and see if they next come up with an offer to collect millions of dollors from a king that was murdered in Africa and they only need you bank account number to split the money with you.

Just be careful.

And one last thing:
(Vincent Liou
President and CEO of VW Global Unified Communications
President and CEO of SGIES)
Do a search on Vincent, follow up by adding george to the search.
That will bring you to this link : http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/classpages/days/2452741_totcpu.html
Now find Vincent on the page and check the link under his name. It will take you here: http://www.stgeorges.bc.ca/ St. George bording school. Now Vincent is not listed in any of the faculity, Board of directors, anywhere. Check the contacts. Might he be one of the students?
Be careful

Yeah...you do have some good points...

But there's always the thought of a 'coincidence' and a whole lot of other stuff. I don't know, but what I do know is that i've had a good experience with them, and so have a lot of other people though. They'll remain my primary mail provider, unless a bomb goes off in their building...again...

Whoa...guys...

Do you have any idea what you're talking about? I know the president of SGIES...LOL! He's about 50 years old! DUDE!...what a sad accusations....LOL

Wait till my wife hears about this!

Looks like others had concerns as well.

http://www.emailaddresses.com/forum/showthread.php?s=188dcf5d3a8e4188fbae5ca974bdfb62&threadid=24190

LOL...

God, if you guys knew the full story around here...you'd laugh..

The owner of emailaddresses.com and the owner of SGIES were past "enemies" in University. They're trying to stir up competition against each other...and this is EXACTLY how they do it!

SGIES is down again. That didn't take long.
The page cannot be displayed
There is a problem with the page you are trying to reach and it cannot be displayed.

Ouch.

SGIES is down! BUt i dont think for long

Their Baaack!

They were updating DNS servers, and finished a new domain which will be up in around 24-48 hours, depending on where you are in the world...servers were fine though

New site of sgies..

http://www.sgies.com

John, are u a mod?

No, but I did read their post on their forum

i read this to:
Hello,

As you may know, we have purchased a new domain. http://www.sgies.com

Therefore, some links will be changing.

-------------------------------------
The new board website is: http://board.sgies.com

Wap Website: http://wap.sgies.com

POP3/IMAP/SMTP Server: mailserver4.myvnc.com

Other links are posted on http://www.sgies.com/info
=====================

---
Vincent Liou
President and CEO of VW Global Unified Communications
President and CEO of SGIES

About sgies: You got me worried, guys. I have an account with StGeorges and after reading your comments today, I went to the sgies online board where I found the following post:
http://com4.runboard.com/bstgeorgesinternationalemailservices.fofficialnewsfromsgies.t1|offset=10
Hello respected colleages,
I have some news for you.
Two days ago, we ran out of funding for SGIES. The board of directors gave me two options
1) Lose my Job
2) Lose SGIES
Well, a man is nothing without his word, and I needed my job. So, I must tell you something very important.
I decided to do this: I keep my job, and I run SGIES by myself. I know that if I told everybody this that they wouldn't believe me or think it was impossible. For the last three days, SGIES has been run by me. I couldn't let SGIES go "poof", since I made a commitment to all of you guys that SGIES was here to stay. So, I kept my job, and i'm the one looking after the servers now, i'm the support staff, survey staff, and the guy who runs the board. This way, I keep my promise, I do something I like, and I can keep my job. Honesty is important, and that is why I chose to share this information with you. I have a promise to you. Nothing will change here. NOTHING at all. The Support Staff/Survey Staff will still respond to your questions just like before. It won't take any longer, and everything will be just like the way it was before.
Sincerely,
Vincent Liou
President and CEO of VW Global Unified Communications
President and CEO of SGIES
__________

I don't care if the service closes or if Vincent Liou is a kid, as someone suggested here, what worries me are the comments about "phishing". Though there is nothing confidential to "phish" in my mail, I don't want my account to be used for dubious purposes.
So is there anyone from sgies reading this who could give us users reassurance as to their honesty?

What does phishing mean anyways?

awer

wear

Oh. I see what you are getting at now.

I guess you can never know if somebody is phishing. But to have something this big happen, and to ask almost NO questions on the signup page, have a forum with nice people, a great helpdesk, and almost everybody that uses SGIES is happy, well, it would seem impossible.

this board sucks

this forum sucks shit

Ah so it's the truth, you are kids:)))
Are you playing with your school's material? Tsss, tsss...
Just make sure you don't play with our accounts, ok,k now we know who you are and where to find you.

lol. I do think that you should stop blaming them though...you don't have the evidence, and besides, SGIES is a nice email service. We could implicate you to be some terrorist :-)

Wow, this world is sull of stupid ass people. HA! You actually think a high school kid can run an email service with so many users and all those servers...lol...you know how much cooling and hard drive cost it would take?! Go visit the forum which I found very helpful. SGIES is bring run buy a determinant CEO that makes fiber optics but also does email service.
Go sign up for a account at http://www.sgies.com or join the forum http://board.myvnc.com and see how good the service SGIES is here.

LOL you jerks, thinking you can run a server that good, ha you think you live in a free world, look at your school, ask the network admin how much it costs to run those kinda of services, lol you so ignorant.

Well all those who believe in SGIES and actually use it and like it good for you guys its a smart choice, other services like Gmail and HotPOP or Spymac they gotta worry about paying off their executives and employees way to much and have to cut costs on their server. Thats the way the corp. world works, lol who ever posts sh*t like that are prolly highschoolers, think they know the freakin world...oo im just gonna run a email service today...lol u ignorants.

Anyways all you others who support SGIES thats great you found a good service. Go SGIES! (sometimes ya gotta admit when a service out does your previous service, things change, deal with it)

Whoops, I meant the forum is at http:/baord.sgies.com

Is http://board.sgies.com

Thanks for the post. I've been waiting to hear that for a long long time...

Yea Robert, thats what Im talking about, you obviously know how good SGIES is.

I read what you say John - but doesn't Mr Liou admit they're funding has dried up? They always seem to contradict themselves - one minute their coffers are overflowing - and the next they're dry.

And really I can't see Mr Liou being on call 24 hrs a day - can you?

Something's going to give pretty soon - and my feeling is if enough users sign up with them then they'll try turning it into a paid service.

I've still got two accounts but don't use em - I'm waiting for some sort of announcement probably by the end of this month.

In the meatime I'm sticking with Nerdshack as I've had no problem with them. I've had trouble galore with St George in past - and everything points to more in the future.

Just me of course - people can choose as they wish.

Colin

I don't know where you got the fact that he is on call 24 hours a day. If you look at the time he responds to questions, etc, he's only awake for maybe 14 hours? There are 10 hours or so that everything remains quiet (in terms of responding). But you're right, people can choose as they wish, no argument there. Freedom of speech, freedom of choice, but I think we can all rest easy because SGIES offers many options, and asks for no money. I can't see them going 'poof' however, because I know that they've got a good president keeping them afloat, with many nice people helping him (mods etc).

Well I was just looking at the part of his scribe as quoted here: 'i'm the one looking after the servers now, i'm the support staff, survey staff, and the guy who runs the board.'

That sounds to me like he's doing the whole caboodle and hence my 24hr comment.

If it's correct then my concern would be what if he goes sick - does everything stop?

It's just one of the reasons why I can't see the service lasting for much longer.

No doubt I'll be proven wrong - LOL!

Colin

Well...yah...proven wrong! LOL!

If he's sick, how could everything stop? He'd be in bed...the servers will stay running....or he'll get off his ass and fix it. If he's so willing to continue an email service even after his company's board of directors fails to give him funding, and he's doing it because he wants to, well, he can move the world if he wants to! hehe

Guys, can we stop talking about this please? This thread was originally for free smtp services...

Okay. Sorry about that.

I saw this on the SGIES forum:

Please note that SGIES is NO LONGER offering free SMTP services. Existing users, however, will be unaffected. This decision was passed with 100% vote from the board of Directors at VW Global Unified Communications.. It seems that too many users are using our SMTP servers for "Dubious purposes".

Best regards,

President and CEO of SGIES and VW Global Unified Communications
president@sgies.com
2004-08-07

Also, the following:

ALL list servers (such as Yahoo Groups) have been banned. SMTP port will actually work ONLY with port 366 AND 465 --SSL

Best regards,

President and CEO of SGIES and VW Global Unified Communications
president@sgies.com
2004-08-07

==============================
I assume this ban included MSN groups, etc.

I won't argue with you. But keep in mind that we were asked to stop talking about this. So, please, stop.

Arg. I can't stop myself. Sorry mr. admin, but I have to say this.

SGIES is taking new account signups for 1GB of free email services.

Can't stop myself again...SGIES is also offering SMTP support again for free.

Robert...please stop. I know how enthusastic you are...but stop....

SGIES (www.sgies.com) announced free 3GB email services!!!

U can have SMTP with Bluebottle. And not only on port 25!

And with SGIES too...port 366

Actually they offer FREE SMTP, they just revamped it thats all....

and
You guys, St. georges International Email services (SGIES) is BY FAR THE BEST.

IT OFFERS FREE 3GB of Email space
Free POP/imap/stmp
Address book, calander, etc,

it is the best

http://www.sgies.com/info
http://www.sgies.com
http://board.sgies.com

One minute they ban smtp because of spammers...the next it's back...what are they up to now...and what's coming next?

Colin

Well, we banned it because of spammers, but now we have new sophisticated anti-spam solutions, and we WILL be the BEST email Service in the world. Or at least we'll try.

--
On a separate note, i'd like to ask that all the users here stop talking about SGIES to respect the Administrator/Moderator's decision. Thank you for your cooperation.

I'm the moderator/administrator and I don't mind you talking about this here. Happy to be of some little help...

Thank you David Weinberger for posting and clearing up things. I can click on your link and it takes me to the main page of this website. I wonder who is the other Admin without a link?

Hmm. I wonder who it could be. Anybody could be a suspect ;-) That's the problem I find with blogs like this. Who knows if I am really "vliou", for I could be anybody....it worries me.

The SGIES services and website was down yesterday for about 10 hours and today for about 9 hours, so far. Yesterday, SGIES came back on about 10 am with apologies from the President of SGIES. Servers ran out of fuel. Today no word so far, and SGIES is still fixed.

THEY WERE NOT DOWN. I was there the entire day...

http://com4.runboard.com/bstgeorgesinternationalemailservices.fannouncements.t12

Matrax wrote:

Btw.
Main site is down today for a long long time posticon What is happening??

vliou wrote:

Aah. I was still configuring/sleeping at the same time. I fell asleep last night by accident while I was configuring the #$(# servers. Oops. Sorry.

POP3 is hosted by about 16 different servers, IMAP by around 23 and webmail is hosted by about 15 with one new one every day (demand...). Everything should be fine now...right? (eek...)

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Vincent Liou
President and CEO of VW Global Unified Communications
President and CEO of SGIES

And everything was working so well...
What are you up to now, kids?
Or are you still sleeping?
Come on, wake up, the users are getting worried, and you know what they say: "Hell has no Wrath like a User Scorned"

You little son of a bitch. Making fun of people like that. You're the fucking kid! Asshole!

I found a 3 gb email service with POP3, IMAP, and SMTP access. And it is all free. Xmail has been around for awhile and seems to be reliable.

http://xmail.us.to/mail.html

Web interface is basic. Information is scattered.
Developer said there is no automatic signup, that he wants to review all requests to screen out spammers. When I sign up, it was pretty automatic. I got a confirming email right away to authentic my sign up.

The developer seems to be a straight shooter. He said the service is being run on office computer. When space on computer is filled up, he will close signup until he gets a bigger harddisk.

Ah. Xmail. I used to use it, but then I was spammed by the site admin for a reason. He kept trying to sell me a cheap version of viagra...

An email service that is a bit better now is definitely Yahoo. But there are a ton of ads. I haven't got spammed yet though..

SGIES announces new Free 5GB email Service!

I am a faithful user of SGIES and Bluebottle. Both services are great, ABSOLUTELY LOVE SGIES. Have a question about Bluebottle IMAP however. I can't seem to synch any folder except my INBOX which is great between ms outlook express (IMAP) and webmail. Is there a setting I'm missing or am I doing something wrong? I continually have no 'folders' on webmail when clearly through outlook express IMAP I do. Help please...

Speaking of SGIES, their forum seems to have disappeared. When I tried to access it today to check the server status, I got the message "No such page exists."
What happened, has the address changed?

I asked a SGIES moderator about the disappearance of the board, and he said that the board was deleted by the Administrator because of trouble on the board. What trouble?

RJK, I know you are a big contributor on the SGIES board, but you have to consider SGIES lack of reliability since April. Hope you have a backup of all your emails stored on the board. Did you get this email from the President of SGIES?

Hello,

Because customer satisfaction must remain a first, I have made a decision with 100% support from the SGIES board that SGIES is no longer accepting new account signups.

However, we do realize that this may be not a terribly great issue for most of the users here who would like their friend and family to signup. So, if you wish to have a friend or family signup, email me (president(at)sgies.com) and I will create a new account for you.

Let it be known that on this date, SGIES will become a private email system. Just for you, so to speak :-)

Please note that tonight's issues must NOT be discussed on the board as it will most likely trigger negative emotions towards SGIES. In addition, we have taken our homepage offline, and http://www.sgies.com:84 will no longer work either.

Hopefully, this will give you a more pleasant emailing experience.

Vincent Liou

Hmmm... What trouble? What are those "issues" which musn't be discussed???
Negative emotions will be most likely triggered by NOT discussing issues and hiding them.

Please do not attack RJK like that. It is my fault, and my fault alone. Feel free to take it out on me, but please, leave him alone.

Well, they're having legal trouble now. Someone is thinking that they're trying to monopolize the e-mail market.

Mr. Liu has announced that St Georges Email Service is closed. I wonder what happened to his promise that he will give a 2 month notice before he shut things down? Wonder how many users lost important emails on his server?

Yes, that is entirely my fault. The legal system cannot be messed with, unfortunately.

Yes, that is entirely my fault. The legal system cannot be messed with, unfortutely, and that is why I am unallowed to grant 2 months notice. HOWEVER, I did email all those who gave me an alternate contact, and all business were contacted in advance.

Are you saying you were running an illegal operation, Vincent?