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Hi David,
there is a 35 sec clip of the UFOs on the Reuters site.

Here is the feed:
http://www.microsite.reuters.com/rss/scienceNews

Here's a link directly to the Reuters page:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=5109891

Pop quiz: UFO stands for...

Think again: What do the letters U & F & O stand for?

I thought the "U" stands for Unidentified but maybe it have changed and now UFO is really "A flying object of aliens from outer space"?

Yes Hanan, Unidentified Flying Object... no assertion of origin in the acronym. But as for me, I always think "aliens from outer space" when I hear about UFOs. And sometimes I think "time travelers from the future." And sometimes I think, "mere natural phenomenon -- swamp gas maybe." And as a last resort I think "Lockheed boys from the skunk-works having fun with our neighbors."

Least interesting is the "digital spoof" alternative.

esto no es nada de lo que todos van ver este year
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How does ball lightning show up on radar? And if these guys are tracking drug smuggling planes, I bet they know the difference between ball lightning and a flying object with mass.

Very interesting stuff. Does anyone know anymore details, such as estimated speed they traveled thereby ruling out that they were possibly some top secret US Millitary projects? Did anyone estimate their size?

They were some sort of optical illusion--you'll notice they are duplicates.

and why not?.....'tis a big universe and maybe we are a case study in how to screw up a beautiful place to live, these guys are on a field trip saying "hmm, still using fossil fools"

Never forget what the "Brookings Report" says about alien contact and human societies. This is the "Bible" for the U.S. gov't and its response to these issues. Compare the open nature of the Mexican Military to that of the U.S. military and it is obvious what the U.S. response will always be!

every one is coming up with all kinds of lame
explanations what is it are we to afraid to
admit what they really are ...come on iam suprised
no one said swamp gas again......

Yea, the latest explaination is ball lightning. First of all, i have seen ball lightning personally, inside a steel space building with a wild thunderstorm going on outside. It was moving slowly through the air then it came in contact with a steel truss and was discharged. I doubt that 11 independent balls of lightning would be traveling in line at 350 or so miles an hour, with two sets of three moving in perfect triangular formation. What the hell is wrong with a scientist who could look at the video and come up with a lame thing like ball lightning?!?! But you know what, everyone just swallows that BS wholesale, even though the truth is jumping up and biting them on the nose. People in general want to believe those lame explainations so they don't have to change the way they think about their boring lives.

Ball lighting? Wouldn`t at least one of the "balls" make contact with the plane, if the metal of the plane was attracting them in the first place? Why did they move away, then more of them come back, and in a formation no less. How does a "rare" natural phonomenum keep coming up as a convient explanation in cases like this. Reminds me of those lights that the WWII pilots were seeing... Foo balls or something? Thanks for listening.

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I think those lights are nothing more than another sign Jesus is about to return. In the Old Testament GOD leads his people out of Pharo's bondage by a pillar of Fire by night and a pillar of clouds by day, this could have been one of those lights but invisable to the naked eye. Jesus went up in the sight of his disciples into the clouds. I belive ufo's are all over in the Bible, but cannot be seen with the naked eye.
It is also written in the Bible GOD made everything seen and unseen. I belive GOD'S holy Cheribum fly in those machines.

Oh Mistar sciencetwist, I do none real-lies dat a ball-o-litenin in a cup-o-zoup waz only lonely vizabal to duh!! infrared, unknot to...duh naked eyesore?

It is obvious that we are reaching the point at which the U.S. government must abandon its policy of sweeping UFO reports under the rug. Aliens have been around for centuries, and it is now impossible for the U.S. government and its allies to cover up much longer. WHy must they keep this information from the public?

Imagine the impact to religions and business practices if we finally have to admit that there is a superior race out there (or possibly many of them!) that could surpass us in every way in warfare, technology, etc.

There would be major chaos in governments, religions, and finances never seen before on this planet. However, reality will soon emerge.

The Mexican experience merely points out the possibility that we live in a universe of multiple
levels, and that alien craft could possibly "cloak" their presence by appearing at a different frequency from those we can see and hear.

They could have "forgotten" that we have infrared devices with the ability to track them - possibly because they have not kept up with information on our technology advances.

I have no doubt that parallel universes exist, and that this is an example of "crossing" from another civilization with superior technology. What do you think?

We remain absolutely blind, & therefor ignorant, to much of what is really there, our senses simply not atuned or designed to perceive beyond a given spectrum, or a particular time/space dimansion.

Well, i heard the ball lightning statement or theroy as some people poseted on this site. I just dont belive it either. For instance as some have said... the folowing. these 'lights' if you will were invisible to the naked eye. They only showed up on radar. They lasted a long time and chased back the plane, with out touching or being discharged. Now im no scientist but, dat dun sound like no dem here lightnins. Here is quote from another site, which quoted a physicist saying the folowing about the 'ball-lightning' theory.

" In the wake of Herrera's comments, UFO researchers said they weren't satisfied by the ball-lightning theory. One Web site, Earthfiles, quoted physicist Bruce Maccabee as saying he didn't buy any of the conventional explanations.

"Even if ball lightning were somehow to be generated in this clear air atmosphere ­— no storms around, supposedly —­ they wouldn't move at all," he was quoted as saying. "They would just appear and disappear somehow or other and not lasting very long, a few seconds. These objects, whatever they were, lasted for a long time."
check out the link for yourselves for more info.
for somereason, i cant post that link on this site, something about robot error. so i'll post this one.
http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=711

Click Link for the Unknown if you Dare!

This is just another typical example of people taking a quantum leap in their conclusions regarding a presently unknown occurence. To say that we don't know what it is, therefore it is space aliens is an incredibly irrational argument.
Scientists aren't afraid to admit anything, they're just clear-headed enough not to accept just any explanation that is popular among the uneducated.

Oh OK scott werth. Some among the educated & uneducated are clear headed enough not to aacept some scientwist's explanations that would seem to indicate that the 11 unidentified flying lights should have been seen with the naked eye, explanations like ball lightning, swamp gas, u name it. But these objects only apeared on radar & infered. Explain that!

Instead of spending time trying to figure out what the mexican lights are, some scientists have spent their time finding out what they are not. A little deductive reasoning my dear Whatson. Check the link below out:
http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID=714&category=Environment

First of all, I have no idea what "infered" is.
You mean "infrared"? Second, you have not addressed my point criticizing your argument that
since one cannot explain the lights then one must necessarily accept that they are space ships. I don't know what the lights are nor have I claimed to. I also find it funny that my skeptical point of view is being attacked yet not one of you have
challenged the above gentleman's theory that these
objects are from a parallel universe.
Obviously this is not the proper forum for asking the tough questions so I won't bother you anymore so as not to spoil your fun.

The key to this is the relationship or interference the Airforce's plane (and equipment)had with the Earth's atmosphere. The plane slicing through the atmosphere generated electrostatic and magnetic forces causing the FLIR to incorrectly display 'ghosting' images.
Remember that Infrared is a wavelength on the electromagnetic spectrum (as is visible light, microwaves, X-rays, etc). This explains why the images 'reacted' when the plane turned towards and away from them i.e the observer (plane) was affecting the movements of the images.
What I'm trying to say here is that I don't have a bloody clue what they are and I don't believe a word I said (typed). Another drink for me

I gotta say that, although I've dropped in a bit late, that this entire thread is quite intriguing.

I've heard the theory about UFO's being "Time Travelers From the Future".

Allow me to shoot that one down right now. There is absolutely, without a doubt, NO WAY possible that that could be the case.

"BUT EINSTEIN'S THEORY ALLOWS IT!!!"

Yes it does. But only to a point. Bear with me here. Without going through Einstein's entire Theory of Special Relativity, you can still grasp the overall concepts.

The one constant is this: Time stops at the speed of light. Completely.

Now....let's imagine that I am broadcasting this post through space as I type it. I happen to be here, on Earth, and you happen to be...say....on a planet in a solar system in the galaxy of Andromeda...which is 2.5 million light years away.

Now, let's imagine that you are able to receive signals from me, here, on Earth. Because radio signals also travel at the speed of light, it would take 2.5 million years for you to get the message I was sending.

Now, let's say that you REALLY want to get the message that I'm sending. What would you do? You would move yourself towards the signal....correct? Another person sitting at your computer in your home where you WERE would receive the message LATER than you would because you were making the distance smaller.

Now keep that all in mind.......

Let's say you'd already responded to one of the messages before you started moving towards the signal from Earth. Since you're now moving towards that original signal from Earth, you're now moving in the same direction that your message was sent....correct?

Now let's say that you could travel at the speed of light. You would be travelling at the same speed that your message was. But, of course, your message would be far ahead of you. It hasn't yet reached Earth. It's still moving through space.

But now let's say that you've found a way to move PAST the speed of light. What would happen?

You would be able to catch up, eventually, with your original message. You would be able to break out your receiver, and hear or see what you originally sent.

Therefore, you ARE moving back in time...in a way...but NOT literally. You are HEARING OR SEEING events from the past. NOT experiencing them.

Nikoli Tesla was the first to invent, experiment, and broadcast a radio signal. And we're talking roughly around the late 19th century. Around 1890 or so. That signal is still traveling through space. Although it is undoubtedly faint, it is still traveling through space.

So, roughly speaking, traveling at the speed of light, we could say that the signal is 114 years away from Earth at this point. 114 light years.

So, theoretically, if we could travel faster than the speed of light, we could "catch" that signal somewhere down the line. And, in essence, we would be glimpsing time as it was back in 1890.

BUT....traveling even faster than the speed of light would never allow us to actually go back in time.

We can view pictures from the past. YOU can see images of the past. Just look up in the night sky. The closest star to us, other than our own sun obviously, is Proxima Centauri. It's about 4.2 light years away. So when you look up at it, you're seeing that star as it was at the turn of the Millenium.

So.....what's my point?

There is NO WAY that UFO's could be beings from our future. You CAN travel back in time. But you CANNOT travel back before events have already taken place.

One of the keys in solving the UFO problem is to make as many people aware of the facts as possible. Massive efforts by private investors and local community groups should be initiated to educate all classes of the masses. It should point out how the declassification of free energy devices and other technologies will benefit each and every one of us, economically and personaly. Great efforts also need to be made to show individuals how they can fight this problem, and the should be incentives for getting involved in the fight.

u guys need to get anal and not alien

In my opinion, ball lightning is one of a family of coherent plasma phenomena. For ball lightning to last as long as it does plasma has to "cohere" in some form as per Maxwell's equations.

It is therefore feasible that this phenomenon could potentially last much longer at altitude where the atmosphere is thick enough to support the generation of the electrostatic potentials needed to generate and maintain these things, but not so thin that there are insufficient atoms for ionisation, yet also not so thick as to restrict the lifetime to a few seconds (as seen at ground level).

Speculation about a form of plasma "cell" in argon gas at low pressure may yet provide a foundation for these sightings.

-A

DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ON LASER HOLOGRAMS AND IT MIGHT ALL REALY START MAKING SOME SENSE.

On the basis of present knowledge and the most likely explanation of the extraterrestrial hypothesis, we have been and are being visited by intelligent life forms who appear self disguising in and out of the narrow band of human perception. These continuous direct and indirect multifaceted alien manifestations demonstrate we are connected beyond the universe as we know it and are part of a much more profound cosmic process, the connecting of two species.

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Okay, I've been sitting on this for a few years but it stills bothers me. I have never been as scared for my life as I was one night with a group of friends on the beach in Sarasota, FL. The story is too unreal to recreate in this format, but my question is, is there a military base near Sarasota? 5 of us got a good look at this and then immediately documented what we saw on camera. It hovered over our momentarily as it passed over us. This object was erratic as it came towards us from the horizon over the ocean. It appeared to be on fire. As it drew near we noticed a white light beaming down towards the water ahead of the vehicle. Like a search light not a headlight. It had no propellers. It was not propelled by jets. It made a strange vibrating/humming sound but quite. Its shape was a squared off diamond with four rectangularly bent underbelly lights on each corner. In the middle of the object was a red light with some sort of distinct emblem or black writing in its center. To my recollection the shape of this red light mimicked the overall shape of the craft. The white light we had seen on the water followed ahead of the vehicle/object/craft onto the beach to our right. It was so low to the ground that it appeared to be landing directly behind our condominium. This was not a private jet. This was not a search helicopter. This was not a plane. It hovered downwards until out of our site. We never saw another craft take this particular flight pattern for the remainder of our trip. The only explanation I can think of is some sort of insanely high tech military aircraft. So where is the base? I should do my research.

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People just wait and wait to see ufo,maybe even a life time or never at all. The best way is to attract a ufo and the way is to use powerful spotlight on the higest mountain in your area First go up there at night and shine the spotlight pref 15mil candle power. stright up into sky and make narrow circular motion with the light, you just may attract a ufo, also bring camera's with you. I did this and it works also bring sound equpiment if you have any...... good luck......james.

are u geninuely looking for the ufo's and if u seen any don't u want to try to shoot them down to get the hi tech. we should be trying to collect all the info and tech we can try to shoot them down the only known way is using a 5000 degree laser beam gun. these are a possible way of getting the ship.