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January 22, 2005

[bjc] My dinner talk

I gave the after dinner speech to the conference. The incredible SJ has posted a rough, unedited transcript. (I haven't read it yet.) I talked about three separate topics: tags, philosophical ethics, and blogging. Now Ben Walker has posted an mp3 of it. (Thanks Ben and SJ.) [Note: The link to the mp3 is the new one. There is also now a RealAudio streaming version.) [Technorati tags: webcred tags]

Posted by D. Weinberger at January 22, 2005 12:54 PM


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David: What a great talk! Thanks to Ben for posting the MP3. This was so much more enjoyable than reading the paper on a Sunday morning!

Posted by: Marc Orchant | January 23, 2005 10:47 AM


So, if, as you say, a completed essay is the antithesis of blogging, why would any organizations which trade in completed writings (the media, the professions, academia) use blogs?

How is it that a completed essay can't inspire a conversation?

And you claimed that it takes too long to churn out a completed piece-- how do the newspapers manage to do it everyday? I asked this of one of the reporters present, and he laughed.

Jon

Posted by: Jon Garfunkel | January 25, 2005 08:30 PM


Jon, I didn't say that blogging and essays are opposites. They're different. Sometimes I write essays. Sometimes I blog. We all use varied rhetorical forms.

I said (generalizing, of course) that blogging is conversational because often it is in response to other posts and often there are comments. Of course essays inspire conversations.

I said something along the lines that if you want to keep up with the blogosphere, you won't have time to polish your work; you have to publish it before you would if it were going into print. Full-time professional journalists can turn out polished stuff every day because that's their job and they have an infrastructure supporting them.

Posted by: David Weinberger | January 25, 2005 11:15 PM


David,

I'd check the audio, but the link to the MP3 says page not found. I'll hunt around some more.

So my response to your clarification: the publisher and the audience agree on the pace, whether it is monthly, weekly, daily. It may not necessarily be instantaneous.

What I treasure about the web, blogging or not, is the asynchronous nature. We can have conversations over short periods of time, or over long periods, perhaps, if we're lucky spanning generations as in the Talmud.

I of course recognize the value in saying incomplete thoughts-- and my venue for that is over a class of wine (or three, as per Friday night), or in the comments sections.

By the time I get around to writing something on Civilities, it's time to codify things to a little more completeness for my own sake.

Jon

Posted by: Jon Garfunkel | January 26, 2005 12:03 AM


Ok, I found the link-- it was in one of your later posts. I transcribed the section in question, and wrote my full response: The unbearable lightness of blogging.

Posted by: Jon Garfunkel | January 26, 2005 10:14 PM


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