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February 08, 2005

3 tagging conclusions

I'm in San Francisco for a TTI Vanguard conference. I'm doing the first presentation, and if you look at this list of Vanguard "digerati" in the room (not to mention the other 150 attendees) you'll see why I'm a tad nervous. So, of course, I spent three wee hours this morning rewriting the presentation I'd rewritten on the plane, that I'd rewritten...

I'm talking about taxonomies and tagging, and at the moment I'm planning on ending with three conclusions about the potential significance of tagging:

1. Rather than knowledge ending where the miscellaneous begins, now it's beginning with the miscellaneous. (In your face, Aristotle!)

2. In the continuing battle between the forces of neatness and messiness, tagging advances the cause of messiness. (I think that's a good thing, but you're talking to a guy who last night was given the employees discount at a food stand at the airport because the cashier just assumed I worked there.)

3. We are owning not just our information but the organization of information. This is part of the project of re-meaning the world - make meaning ours - in which we've been engaged for decades.

Too late to tell me that those are ill-thought and I'm about to make a fool of myself. I have to give over my slides now, the moment of commitment. Oh, how I hate it.

Posted by D. Weinberger at February 8, 2005 09:58 AM


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It's o.k., David, I looked at the list of digirati, and you'll be fine; white men can't tag.

Posted by: K.G. Schneider | February 8, 2005 01:41 PM


Ha! Karen beat me to it. That's a pretty homogenous group, indeed. Not that there aren't many wonderful people on the list, of course. But they couldn't have found a way to include some wonderful women? Or wonderful people of color? <sigh>

Posted by: Liz | February 8, 2005 08:04 PM


I tossed your three observations to my class last night, and this was some of what we came up with. (The "obsolescence, reversal, retrieval, enhancement/enablement" language refers to Marshall McLuhan's tetrad of four media laws.)

Posted by: Mark Federman | February 10, 2005 11:06 AM


Are your slides published somewhere?

Posted by: Beth | May 1, 2005 01:34 PM


okay, got the slides - but can you explain what the socks in the laundry basket and sock drawer metaphor? Is it the making remeaning?

Posted by: Beth | May 2, 2005 08:42 AM


It's an example of how we get trees: We lump and split piles. Trees of ideas reflect this physical behavior.

Posted by: David Weinberger | May 2, 2005 11:49 AM


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