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August 26, 2005

Lazy, dumb programmers that are nothing of the sort

Philipp Lenssen explains why programmers should be lazy and dumb, although of course he doesn't mean either of those terms in the way we usually do.

Posted by D. Weinberger at August 26, 2005 02:53 PM


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This is an old (1980s) meme started by Larry Wall, creator of Perl. I would have liked to see Philip Lenssen nod at Larry's famous comment that great programmers should be "lazy, impatient and full of hubris." Which, like most Perl code, is obfuscating to the point of Zen.

Good series of conversations with Wall here:
http://www.paulagordon.com/shows/wall/

Posted by: Gordon Benett | August 26, 2005 08:11 PM


Gordon, I only later heard of Larry's quote, but in my article I did say that the "programmers should be lazy" meme is not new (I came across it many times), but that I found the "programmers should be dumb" meme to be more new (see fourth paragraph).

Posted by: Philipp Lenssen | August 27, 2005 05:52 AM


Lenssen's post generated lots of predictable humorous comments. This one struck me though - '...the article has nearly nothing to do with programming. All the valid points equally apply to other areas...'

Now there's some accurate insight. As a guy who spends most of his time bridging the void between tech users and tech developers, I see far more of the traditional 'lazy and dumb' behavior in all business areas than I do of the assertive 'lazy and dumb' that Lenssen adcocates.

Developers have really applied Lenssen's lazy/dumb paradigm when it comes to the use of wikis. Where I don't see wiki's being applied any time soon due to institutionalized lazy/dumbness is in the non-tech areas of business - and they could really use it.

Posted by: kris | August 27, 2005 10:08 AM


The first time I ran across the meme was in a Robert Heinlein story, Time enough for Love (1973) "Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something." It is the story of a lazy man who invents all kind of useful things in his quest to get back into his hammock and sit there sipping a cool drink.

What this the origin of the meme, given programmers love of Science Fiction?

Posted by: Tim | August 28, 2005 05:32 AM


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