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« Now that we're in the majority, could you please stop calling us consumers? || Back to Blog | Playing politics with war » September 11, 2007
Peter Galison is a university professor of physics at Harvard. He's giving a Tuesday lunchtime talk. [As always, I'm paraphrasing, getting things wrong, etc.] Positivists tried to ground knowledge in an accumulation of observations, with a minimum of theory, Prof. Galison says. Science would come in the form of little bricks. The result would be "out of the reach of metaphysical theories." Observation-based science would get better over time. After WWII, via Thomas Kuhn and others, there was a rebellion against the positivist view. Theory comes first, they said. Science was so framed by theory that what counted as valid observation was dictated by the framework of theory. There is no neutral observation and there's no raw perception outside of the framing provided by our theories. Various theories therefore were not continuous (as for the positivists) but were ships passing in the night...at least according to this point of view. Example: The positivists saw special relativity as the capstone of a continuum of observation-based theories, while the Kuhnians think Einstein overthrew his predecessors and created a new whole. Prof. Galison looks at the rhythms of the rise of theories. There are breaks in the strands of experiment, theory and instrument but the breaks don't occur at the same time. And that's to be expected because new instrumentation takes a while to yield new experiments and theories. Doesn't this just make the Kuhnian predicament worse? Now there are three strands with discontinuities, not just the strand of theort. "How do subcultures of science coordinate? What is shared between experimentalists and theorists, or between instrument makes and theorests...or between a subculture like instrument making and the wider technical world?" When a string theorist want to talk to a biochemist, do they have to engage in radical translation as posited by the anti-positivists? No, it's more like the pidgins, jargons and creoles that build up at the real, "thick boundaries" between the natural languages. Prof. Galison wants to use linguistic anthropology to see how scientific disciplines talk. He calls the areas where these inter-languages are built up "trading zones." (There are no pure fields, he says. Physics, for example, contains elements of craft, math, experimentation, Plato...) He looks at the growth and change of language, its local connections to people and places, and its contextuality within the wider world. E.g., Einstein had the idea that time is nothing but properly coordinated clocks. Poincare in 1898 had to figure out how to synchronize clocks so he could figure out the longitude of places around the world. He used this to talk philosophically about what simultaneity means. In 1900, he saw that simultaneity existed in the intersection of philosophy of time, technology of time synchronization, and the electrodynamics of moving bodies. New trading zones are emerging: Nanotech (surface chem, elec eng, atomic phyics...), string theory (geometers, field theories), simulations (computer science, stat, viz display). Each of these have had to develop jargon, pidgin and then a creole. Of course these fields are collaborative. The question is how they're able to. We should dig in to understand the shared techniques, theoretical notions, and instrumentation, and how they relate in the various intersecting fields. What exactly is the coordinative project, how does it change over time, and what does that tell us about the local knowledges?
Q: (ethanz) To what extent have people looked at languages between the engineering and business communities?
Q: (eric von hippel): When engineers talk to others, there's often someone translating. What are the general principles? A: (halley suitt) If two disciplines like biology and chemistry create a whole new set
of words to describe biochemistry, per your example, is the number of
new words in a new field -- for instance all the Net jargon bursting
forth -- predictive of the importance of that new field? Q: (judith donath) In a consulting company, there's a different type of cooperation — it's very competitive. They're trying to use a new language to convince the clients that they have something unique to offer. It's more about jockeying for leadership than cooperating. It's intellectual scent-marking Q: (me) Do these intersections simplify the concepts? Do the participants translate back into their own terms? Do the translations change the theoretical understanding of each of the fields?
Q: (wendy seltzer) Attorneys are called on to speak many disciplinary languages. What's the role of formal education in differrent disciplines as opposed to learning on the job? Should law firms hire biochemists to talk to biochemists. Others hire generally interested people. I think the generally interested people are going to better at explaining it to a judge, etc.
Q: (john palfrey) People argue that locking up IP discourages research. Others disagree. Posted
by D. Weinberger at September 11, 2007 05:38 PM
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Darn... I left a comment here that was all gnarled up with assertions that I'd like to validate or withdraw, went off to the library for some books on Kuhn, and when I got back the comment was gone.
Being a naturally paranoid person...
Posted by: fp | September 16, 2007 07:16 PM
You are not well informed about recent work in the history of mathematics, work which helps us understand Einstein as an advocate of natural mathematics. You can't understand relativity at all unless you understand how it grew out of the history of natural mathematics. Here is a brief discussion of this work. I particularly recommend Garciadiego on Russell:
Ryskamp, John Henry, "Paradox, Natural Mathematics, Relativity and Twentieth-Century Ideas" (May 19, 2007). Available at SSRN: http://ssrn.com/abstract=897085
Posted by: John Ryskamp | September 21, 2007 07:18 PM
Deborah Palfrey deserves the Pemberton Award for Good Governance.
Palfrey list is like the black book of 1918.
That trial of the century is deleted from all books.
The list there had 47000 names.
The list here is 46000 phone records.
The listed are not womenisers or machos or ordinary sinners.
They are power brokers, gay, lutheran agitators of all wars.
These wretches are only the dirty cover for the real pimps deep underground.
A curse on kingpins, Justice Charles Darling then and judge Adolph Kessler now.
Noel Pemberton-Billing
Trial of the Century 1918
Posted by: Billing | October 6, 2007 05:17 AM