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They get a complete dump of Wikipedia in Arabic?

Internet access?

What exactly is YOUR problem with this? This list of inuendoes does actually not say anything except bigotry.

Engaging citizens on the WWW is supposed to be a way of breaking down barriers to international tensions. Now this post makes it sound like a way of subverting the 'Merkin way of life.

I guess my liberal idealism makes me unable to understand how dialoguing will destroy the web as we know it. Maybe having gatekeepers on our side of the Atlantic should be employed. Kind of a cyber border fence. To protect us from ourselves. And the Lybians from whatever.

Lighten up.

(In answer to Crosbie, the package will include satellite web access among other things our rural school dosn't even have.)

Thanks Charlie for the info on web access.

Incidentally, the above didn't come across to me as a bigot's list of innuendoes.

Perhaps you're far more percipient than me, but until you have clear evidence perhaps it's you that should 'lighten up'?

I would certainly support the idea that enabling cross-cultural communication via the web is far safer for civilisation than raising barriers to encourage communication via despite.

Us bigots have to talk to each other, or our bigotry becomes reinforced.

Charlie, since my post is the only one with anything that looks like a list, I'm guessing you're criticizing me for bigoted "innuendoes."

They're not innuendoes. My exclamation of "Excellent" wasn't intended as sarcasm. I'm glad to have 1.2M computer literate, world-connecting, linux-hacking, wikipedia-contributing Libyan kids online.

#5 raises the point that as Wikipedia becomes a world phenomenon, it loses the semi-hidden homogeneity that has enabled it to succeed so amazingly. It'll be really, really interesting - and salutory - to see what happens.

So, I'm willing to take responsibility for writing badly enough that sincerity could be mistaken for sarcasm. But, even so, I don't see where you get your interpretation. "Destroy the Web as we know it"? I can't get that out of my list even if I take it as sarcastic.

It may be that 'hackers' is seen as pejorative and visually stands out in the list and (subliminally) sets the tone for the entire list.

'hackers'='Delinquent teenagers bringing about the downfall of the US IT infrastructure'

I suggest that 'hacker' has transformed from 'ingenious tinker' to 'malicious subversive'.

The prospects for restoring the original definition, or at least obtaining wide recognition of the ambiguity, don't look good.

These days 'hacker' is a shibboleth for its own membership - if you don't know the old definition, you don't know enough to be one.

Ah. Maybe. Although I would have thought that the first three points are so unambiguously positive - good things done with money, literacy, peace - that the bad and unintended sense of "hacking" couldn't subvert them.

BTW, nice use of the word "shibboleth" - which itself has become something of shibboleth for people who are word hackers :) (Word hackers != hack writers)

(I just noticed that in my post I said "formerly" instead of "formally," which reverses my meaning and the truth. D'oh.)

David,

Libya has only singed an MOU - not a binding contract or cash transfer - with OLPC. In fact, Libya hasn't even confirmed the activity yet.

Then, who knows what restrictions Libya will place on the connectivity and content of the laptops. It only has an estimated 205,000 Internet users today.

I doubt there will soon be 1.2 million unfettered users anytime soon. http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/libya/one_laptop_per_libyan_child.html

Damn you, Reality!

wayan - agreed.

It seems odd that the simple presence of computers will somehow 'create computer literacy'. I also wonder at what will happen with 1.2 million perfect portable communications machines in a country with, you must admit, a checkered millitary history. Are they likely to be turned to helping the children?

If, suddenly, universal sattelite internet access is granted to all the free citizens of Lybia, these computers will become ideal military items. If, as the situations is now, the access to communications is limited to those with the necessary connections... they remain ideal military devices.

Yes only presence of computer cant raise literacy rate or result in miracles but the fact is that the gradual and steady progress it make in indvidual and nation's fate, is tremendous.

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