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Liked it -it was inexpected..but was in the ultimate comedic vein.
Here's my take....
As Meadow entered the diner, the shooter (coming out of the rest room) killed Tony...it abruptly cut to black because Tony is dead,
Livia was right!!!...It's all a big nothing!

As I said in my eulogy for the series, Tony Soprano lives on; it was the audience that got whacked.

Considering that teh kitteh played a prominent role in this series-ending episode, I thought some LOLSopranos might be appropriate:

Im in ur bing, staring at christofa.

I made Agent Harris a veal parm sub, but I eated it.

I can has ambiguouz ending?

AJ is alive? DO NOT WANT.

Invisible shoota.

Phil has a bukett? No, he kikked it!

Oh hai, Im David Chase, werkin on the sopranoes movee, gtgkthx.

One final thought:

I want to know what became of the changes
We waited for love to bring
Were they only the fitful dreams
Of some greater awakening
Ive been aware of the time going by
They say in the end it’s the wink of an eye
And when the morning light comes streaming in
You’ll get up and do it again
Amen

-Jackson Browne’s “The Pretender”

Isn’t this the death we all hope for ourselves–to pass away with no anxiety or drama? In this regard, Chase’s series end represented the perfect death. Dr Kevorkian couldn’t have done a better job.

Im going to be a happy idiot
And struggle for the legal tender
Where the ads take aim and lay their claim
To the heart and the soul of the spender
And believe in whatever may lie
In those things that money can buy
Thought true love could have been a contender
Are you there?
Say a prayer for the pretender
Who started out so young and strong
Only to surrender

Sopranos is anti-american racism at its best.

The anxiety that we feel as the family gathers for dinner in the restaurant, as the strangers enter, the meaning of Meadow being unable to park her car -- will she miss the end? -- the portentousness of the music, the meaning of the man's trip to the rest room, the two African Americans who enter before the cut to black and hold... are they shooters? Frankly I didn't think that the cut to black was anything but the end of the story for me. I assumed that the story went on for Tony and family until it didn't. I think Mark's interpretation that the audience got whacked is the best one.

Unorthodox ending, fitting for what was an unorthodox comedy.
Speculation will reign about what didn't happen next.....
Love Bill K.'s comment quoting The Pretender. Great stuff.

stray birds of summer wow gold come to my window to sing and fly away. ffxi gil and yellow leaves of autumn, which have no songs, flutter and fall there with a sign wow gold.

This is what I got from a friend of mine, let me know what you think.

He was killed....

in fact, the ending was genius if you've paid attention to the show or are just a fan of well developed well thought out plots that all tie together and have the memory of a champ to remember it all

the ending was simple, he got killed, but let me tell yall why and explain in detail... There was 3 people in the room total who had a reason to kill tony.....

the two black guys, they were paid before to kill tony but he was only shot in the ear, this was in one of the earlier seasons,

also in the earlier seasons, the trucker who was sitting at the bar stool, who the camera kept focusing in on, is Nikki leotardo, Phil Leotardos nephew, he was in one of the early season episodes where Phil and Tony have a sit down....

heres where the genius comes in....

When tony's walking in the diner,you see the camera focus on him, then it switches to his perspective, and you see him looking @ the booth hes gonna sit at...

then the camera switches back to tonys face, then it once again switches to his perspective, and it shows him looking @ the door and looking @ the people come in..... Everytime the door opens the Chimes sound....... Carmela walks in, Chimes, AJ walks in Chimes, this when Meadows parallel parking, still trying to get inside the restaurant....

at this point the camera switches back to the trucker who goes in the bathroom......

Then it goes to a scene where meadow finally parks and starts running in the diner....

the doors about to open, Tony looks up....

and No Chimes......................

No Music............

Everything just goes black...............

In one of the early episodes of the sopranos, tonys talking with bobby about what it must feel like to die..

Bobby says "at the end, you probably dont hear anything, everything just goes black"

part of that was revisited in the second to last episode during the last seconds of it, when tonys about to go to sleep and he flashes back to the memory of him and bobby on the boat... "You probably dont hear anything everything just goes black"

so in the end, the Journey song was playing, the chimes on the door sounded but when meadow came in, the guy in the trucker hat came out and killed tony...

its the reason you dont hear, or see anything when he died.... it was from his perspective.... and everything went black, then the credits rolled.

the ending was simple, he got killed, but let me tell yall why and explain in detail... There was 3 people in the room total who had a reason to kill tony.....

the two black guys, they were paid before to kill tony but he was only shot in the ear, this was in one of the earlier seasons,

also in the earlier seasons, the trucker who was sitting at the bar stool, who the camera kept focusing in on, is Nikki leotardo, Phil Leotardos nephew, he was in one of the early season episodes where Phil and Tony have a sit down....

heres where the genius comes in....

When tony's walking in the diner,you see the camera focus on him, then it switches to his perspective, and you see him looking @ the booth hes gonna sit at...

then the camera switches back to tonys face, then it once again switches to his perspective, and it shows him looking @ the door and looking @ the people come in..... Everytime the door opens the Chimes sound....... Carmela walks in, Chimes, AJ walks in Chimes, this when Meadows parallel parking, still trying to get inside the restaurant....

at this point the camera switches back to the trucker who goes in the bathroom......

Then it goes to a scene where meadow finally parks and starts running in the diner....

the doors about to open, Tony looks up....

and No Chimes......................

No Music............

Everything just goes black...............

In one of the early episodes of the sopranos, tonys talking with bobby about what it must feel like to die..

Bobby says "at the end, you probably dont hear anything, everything just goes black"

part of that was revisited in the second to last episode during the last seconds of it, when tonys about to go to sleep and he flashes back to the memory of him and bobby on the boat... "You probably dont hear anything everything just goes black"

so in the end, the Journey song was playing, the chimes on the door sounded but when meadow came in, the guy in the trucker hat came out and killed tony...

its the reason you dont hear, or see anything when he died.... it was from his perspective.... and everything went black, then the credits rolled.

Tony dosnt die
they leave it blank because there is talk of a movie for HBO
thats why SILVIO isnt dead and the main characters
for the most part of the SOPRANO family
Tony and his family go to any every day all american diner to eat
Carmela suggests it to further her deluision there the all american everyday family
like dads and boyscouts and teenagers on dates and truckers stopping for a burger
she feels everythings NORMAL now
AJ wont go to war hes got a new car girlfriend.., once again they have manipulated him and got him a job they want to keep a hold on him and justify there good parents
Now there okay Medow will go into law since they heard of the $170,00 to start job offer
Tony has a court case coming up
someone else is testifying from PHIL LETARDOS side
he was the informant that the FBI guy was talking about
the writer leaves things open to question and he s fuking with our heads he knows how into the show people are
Tony is always looking over his shoulder and never feels safe
thats why every person walking in is foucused on to make us think and get us NERVOUS
OH NO HERE IT COMES
tzhis is HOW IT ENDS!
O there gonna shoot him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe the whole family
and the guy going into the bathroom
alot of people say like MICHEAL in the god father
they dont do that anymore
the toilets are different too were would he hide it
they carry the gun on them, they all carry guns
if there hit men or made men pretty much they are always packing because there is always the possiblity of a wacking
they always quickly walk in or up to the person shoot and are gone
in out
they dont hang around order anything let any one be able to remeber there face
bang done

it just stopped because
this is Tonys life
it just goes on and on as always
family
looking over the shoulder
friends family dying or killed
court cops FBI
his family is his only safe haven
so it ends with him with his family in a every day diner eating onion rings
not italian food
he ate a burger earlier
not italian food which he always does
if it means anything
the ketchups stuck the lawyer cant get it out
it pisses tony off
he might have to go to court
everythings full of obsticales
stuck
he s stuck
always problems
thats his life
it just ends
Medow the perfect daughter cant park her car
perfectly
but shes in a hugh hurry
she LOVES her family and she is growing up engaged going away on her own
its the last days of her childhood in a way when there all young going to the
niegborhood place they always went to
as kids
she dosnt want to miss it
but also she hurries
since she is in a rush to be on her own
shes frustrated too, thats the car pariking problem and not so perfect

if you want to pick it all apart
mainly it just ends
because the show is over
we cant watch there lives anymore
they turned the TV off on us
they shut the door

we will have to wait and see if
they the writers producers and actors want to let us back in
till them
life as usual

stop with the symbolisism
and in the credits it just says
truck drivers
not Niki Letardo
by law they have to list the credits
its in the union contract
it just says truck drivers # 1 # 2 ect
your over reaching
Phils dead and there all glad he was getting overly bossy and crazy and angry he sat for 20 years in jail and no one helped him
he might of looked like a mafioso
but he wasnt the guy at the counter
we dont know what he was looking at
maybe the boy and girl on a date kissing
wasnt dressed like it either
there too vain to not look like they want to
Tony lives
life goes on
Silvio will recover or he d be dead already
and
baba bing

maybe a HBO movie special eventually
maybe not
they have to give GANDOFINO BIG BIG MONEY for it and I think the writer needs to get these people out of his head

by the way Ive met many of the cast
including GANDOFINI Nice man HUGE Man
and I know Steve fro mthe music scene
Walnuts lived in my neighborhood
I moved
so did Joey pants who was murdered by Phil
for being gay basically
and a few others I met backstage at a rock thing STEVEN promoted
he is the GREATEST guy
they used to cal lhim MIAMI STEVE before little steven
yea he is going bald
who mentioned they just relized SILVO wore a wig?
HUH how could they not know
and WALNUTS Paulie Sirco is EXACTLY the same as his character
even his clothes
he is PAULY WALNUTS
obnoxious smart assed brooklyn 18th ave hang out guy jogging suits pinkie ring the whole bit hanging out in DYKER park by the BACI courts and playing poker
exactly the same
he did time to
hopefully he is really sincerly reformed
kinds dont fuck with me guy
Gando fini has a twinkeling smile and in his eyes like SANTA once you relize he really ISNT Tony and you dont have to be afraid of him
he is HUGE hands like baseball mitts

Tony dosnt die
they leave it blank because there is talk of a movie for HBO
thats why SILVIO isnt dead and the main characters
for the most part of the SOPRANO family
Tony and his family go to any every day all american diner to eat
Carmela suggests it to further her deluision there the all american everyday family
like dads and boyscouts and teenagers on dates and truckers stopping for a burger
she feels everythings NORMAL now
AJ wont go to war hes got a new car girlfriend.., once again they have manipulated him and got him a job they want to keep a hold on him and justify there good parents
Now there okay Medow will go into law since they heard of the $170,00 to start job offer
Tony has a court case coming up
someone else is testifying from PHIL LETARDOS side
he was the informant that the FBI guy was talking about
the writer leaves things open to question and he s fuking with our heads he knows how into the show people are
Tony is always looking over his shoulder and never feels safe
thats why every person walking in is foucused on to make us think and get us NERVOUS
OH NO HERE IT COMES
tzhis is HOW IT ENDS!
O there gonna shoot him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe the whole family
and the guy going into the bathroom
alot of people say like MICHEAL in the god father
they dont do that anymore
the toilets are different too were would he hide it
they carry the gun on them, they all carry guns
if there hit men or made men pretty much they are always packing because there is always the possiblity of a wacking
they always quickly walk in or up to the person shoot and are gone
in out
they dont hang around order anything let any one be able to remeber there face
bang done

it just stopped because
this is Tonys life
it just goes on and on as always
family
looking over the shoulder
friends family dying or killed
court cops FBI
his family is his only safe haven
so it ends with him with his family in a every day diner eating onion rings
not italian food
he ate a burger earlier
not italian food which he always does
if it means anything
the ketchups stuck the lawyer cant get it out
it pisses tony off
he might have to go to court
everythings full of obsticales
stuck
he s stuck
always problems
thats his life
it just ends
Medow the perfect daughter cant park her car
perfectly
but shes in a hugh hurry
she LOVES her family and she is growing up engaged going away on her own
its the last days of her childhood in a way when there all young going to the
niegborhood place they always went to
as kids
she dosnt want to miss it
but also she hurries
since she is in a rush to be on her own
shes frustrated too, thats the car pariking problem and not so perfect

if you want to pick it all apart
mainly it just ends
because the show is over
we cant watch there lives anymore
they turned the TV off on us
they shut the door

we will have to wait and see if
they the writers producers and actors want to let us back in
till them
life as usual

stop with the symbolisism
and in the credits it just says
truck drivers
not Niki Letardo
by law they have to list the credits
its in the union contract
it just says truck drivers # 1 # 2 ect
your over reaching
Phils dead and there all glad he was getting overly bossy and crazy and angry he sat for 20 years in jail and no one helped him
he might of looked like a mafioso
but he wasnt the guy at the counter
we dont know what he was looking at
maybe the boy and girl on a date kissing
wasnt dressed like it either
there too vain to not look like they want to
Tony lives
life goes on
Silvio will recover or he d be dead already
and
baba bing

maybe a HBO movie special eventually
maybe not
they have to give GANDOFINO BIG BIG MONEY for it and I think the writer needs to get these people out of his head

by the way Ive met many of the cast
including GANDOFINI Nice man HUGE Man
and I know Steve fro mthe music scene
Walnuts lived in my neighborhood
I moved
so did Joey pants who was murdered by Phil
for being gay basically
and a few others I met backstage at a rock thing STEVEN promoted
he is the GREATEST guy
they used to cal lhim MIAMI STEVE before little steven
yea he is going bald
who mentioned they just relized SILVO wore a wig?
HUH how could they not know
and WALNUTS Paulie Sirco is EXACTLY the same as his character
even his clothes
he is PAULY WALNUTS
obnoxious smart assed brooklyn 18th ave hang out guy jogging suits pinkie ring the whole bit hanging out in DYKER park by the BACI courts and playing poker
a few live in BENSONHURST..still
exactly the same
he did time to
hopefully he is really sincerly reformed
kinds dont fuck with me guy
Gando fini has a twinkeling smile and in his eyes like SANTA once you relize he really ISNT Tony and you dont have to be afraid of him
he is HUGE hands like baseball mitts

Hes not dead. Chase just does a good job in making his audience misinterpret his finale. Tony Vs Phil is over and phil is dead.Bobby Bacalieri and Silvio Dante is the aftermath of this war. New york and Nj are peaceful ... Happy 5 families.... I am sure they wont leave us hanging and they will hopefully give us on last thorough look in a sopranos Movie...

The ending is all in the music. The different songs we heard throughout the show matched the scene or episodes perfectly. Just think about the intro... In the song they sing it goes on and on and on... Tony lives and deals with the upcoming court case, Carm stays with him, Aj bitches about his job, and Meadow moves up in the world, life goes on.

All the symbolism that points to him getting shot such as the the door chime (for whom the bells toll), the godfather reference, and the numerous suspicious characters in the room are all nice to think about but there is a big problem... The people doing the shooting never wait around and let witnesses gather, they run in, shoot, and leave. So it couldn't have been anyone in the cafe, and meadow was the only person coming in the door...

I think there is one thing everyone can agree on. Everyone loved talking about this show while it was on, and David Chase knew this. Ending the show in this way allows all of us to speculate about what we think should have happened. No one can write an ending that everyone is going to enjoy. He knows the best ending for the audience is the one that allows each of us to imagine what happened. Think about the ending of Seinfeld..Most people I talked to just said it sucked, and it was never mentioned again... I know 20 years from now when we think about old shows we will still be speculating about the ending like we are now.

I think the story goes on.At first I thought he got whacked, but then I thought about it some more. I think the song that was playing "Don't Stop Believin'" was the message. You know how Ton started to actually seem like he had a conscience in the last couple seasons, then turned back to embrace his mobster wise guy ethics with a vengeance the last few shows? I think we don't stop believing that he really can be a stand-up guy, once the pressure is off. I think he goes into a witness protection plan and they all live happily (well not that happily but hey anythings better than dead) ever after.

Here is my Sopranos ending:

The guy with the cub scouts sitting in the booth was the really the ringleader of a group of New Jersey chemical misfits made up of dwarfs and midgets and calling themselves the Mozzarilla Mafia. They were dressed up as Webelos ready to whack Tony and his family and move in on the territory.

When Meadow walks in the door, Tony looks up and the smallest of the group, Mini-Mack, runs under her legs with a tommy-gun but trips on the heel of Meadow's Prada shoe. This sends Tony in a rage, throwing midgets around the diner (jukebox switches to the Benny Hill theme), onion rings flying, etc. But for a few ankle bites from Tony Zippo, the dwarf mob-bossette, Tony and the family escape to exile in Sarasota, unknowingly buying a house across from the Tiny-Town retirement village next to the Sarasota Circus Museum where Tony spends the rest of his life in a midget-ladened paranoia...

As I watched it the first time, the onion rings struck me as the tell. The ring is a symbol of unity, and here (as in most cases), the symbol of family unity. Tony carefully watched each customer walk through the door, and scanned the seated patrons. He accepts that he will always have to do this. The enterance of each reoccuring character emphasizes the extent of the responsibility he has to his family. Tony, Carmela, and AJ ate an onion ring. Meadow did not. I don't know why. But she came to dinner in her own way, as they each did. Tony and his family live on...as a family. A hit on the Sopranos in this place would be difficult to execute if it was Carmela who deterimed the resturant. Tony is definately wearing a different shirt on his way in. Perhaps a differnt hat would have been more appropriate, but Tony doesn't wear hats. The flip side of the onion rings (and we are forced to deal with one) could be that those who ate one sealed their own fate, together as family.....and Meadow did not. Again, I don't know why.

did any of you geniuses notice that Meadow couldn't parallel park the car that parallel parks itself?

Tony was shot.

I loved it, and thought it was a masterpiece in ambiguity. We're all of us closure-junkies. We crave clear-cut endings. Every once in a while, one comes along which leaves things way open - like the Lady or the Tiger - and those can be the most satisfying in the long run. The Sopranos and the Closure-Junkies

Given the fact that many on this site are extremely opinionated concerning their personal feelings and overt dislike for the ending, I will presume that all have also watched many, if not all, of the Sopranos episodes over the past six seasons. With that in mind, we all know that the show is not plot-driven as most shows (network shows, to be precise) are. The show is character driven, with the mafia plot serving as the backdrop to expose the phyche of the characters we have grown to become familiar with. With that in mind, an ending that has anything to do with plot (i.e. tony gets whacked, etc.) misses the entire point of what the "Sopranos" is ultimately about.

In my opinion, the final scene is a culmination of Tony's thoughts and a full interpretation of his own fears, loves and desires. If you watch the scene over, you will notice the surreal nature of the scene that always seems to permeate during the Sopranos "dream-sequences". It's about Tony being with his family, together. It's about the fear that he, and his family, are always in danger and being watched. It's about wanting to be safe. It's about wanting to just have a normal life (lets not forget his coma dream in the 2nd episode of this season). It's about a lot of other things, as well.

No, I don't think that this show had a conclusion -- and thank god for that. Never did one episode tie everything together and neither did any season have any sense of completion -- a sense of finality (which, by some unknown consensous means killing Tony) would have been a mockery to the show. Yes, people like blood and the sense of an immediate gasp when something knowingly-dreadful occurs...these are also the same people who yell at their television screens every time Ryan Seacrest says that he will announce which contestant will be eliminated....after the commercial.

Think of the ending in the larger scope of the show as a whole.

There are a couple of things that lend to the idea that Tony was killed.

#1. When Tony first walks in he is obviously pissed because he realizes the diner is laid out in a way that he will be vunerable to a sudden hit.

#2. When the first chime goes off Tony is somewhat scared and actually reaches for his gun before he realizes that there is no threat and he can relax.

#3. When Carmela comes in Tony doesn't just slide over he makes he sit on the inner seat of the booth making himself the outside person closest to the bathroom shot..

#4. The song. When Christopher was killed there was a soundtrack, same with Tony.

#5. Bobby and Tony's talk about it never hearing the shot and everything going black.

#6. And the most telling to me, the look on Meadows face as she walks in the door; she sees the man with a gun to her dad's head as he looks up at her. She has the sudden look of shock and forboding and then.....
Black.....
Its all over, Tony's dead. What if they would have let the shot be heard? Would we be more or less satisfied? I for one would be less.

Deborah,

If you're going to post extended messages, can you please at least investigate the difference between "there", "their", and "they're". Your poor grammar is detrimental to your message.

you want the sopranos? I'll show you sopranos--kabling, kabling kabling kabling--there's your sopranos, madone

Tony was killed.
Bell rings...Tony looks up. You see who enters.
Bell rings...Tony looks up. Screen goes black.
Focus on Meadow was because she said she would always protect Tony. Family is exempt from hits. If she had not of had the delay she could've blocked the clean shot from restroom by 'members only' guy. Moral: Even the most simple of things could've averted a tragedy.

Sopranos' ending: Am I the only person who liked it?

Heavens no! I thought it was perfect.

The point wasn't what if anything happened the instant after the cut to black, but the brutal uncertainty of Tony's life up to that point. Who would want that kind of life, whether it's ducking bullets or a coming indictment? Either way, sooner or later, it's gonna end badly.

In the midst of this, I thought the real theme of the last episode came out in AJ's comment about enjoying the good times while they last: meals with family; Paulie Walnuts sunning himself outside the pork store; Tony looking up into a cold early spring sky, obviously savoring it. I don't buy the idea the the end espoused the "it's all a big nothing" lesson.

The literalists who want to "know" whether Tony got whacked do their imagination, and Chase's art, a disservice. Killing Tony off would have killed the power of imagination in this fabulous saga, by making it impossible to imagine him still alive. It would have lessened all that came before.

To understand why I have this perspective rent the DVD of the best British gangster movie ever made: Get Carter with Michael Caine from the early 70s. See how you feel after that ending.

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I thought the end was magnificent. It interrupted the fiction of the mob story we were passively invested in and left us in our living rooms looking at TV snow and ourselves, demanding that we start asking questions. Very Brechtian, as a matter of alienation effect (with a nod to Rod Serling), and also theraputic.

The show was always about two kinds of narrative practice: psychotherapy and film-making--carriers of the exemplary fictions we use to come to terms with reality. More specifically the show was about genre: the mob drama, the family drama, the epic.

Tony Soprano is himself a great questioner. The thing about Tony is that he is someone who cannot merely gaze passively at what passes before him. Instead he interrogates, analyzes, makes choices, and acts. This is what I think gives him the aura of an heroic figure as a protagonist. But his vision comes at a cost – thus the therapy.

It is interesting as the story progresses that you see AJ starting down the same path, as he begins to question – as he does at Bobby B.’s wake – our culture and the violence and preditory behavior it is predicated on. And of course he becomes a candidate for therapy himself. But it is not his father’s business that is bothering AJ. It is just business. Corporations and governments behave no differently than mobsters, and we are all implicated in the brutality and absurdity they promulgate.

It is therefore ironic that (reading the mob drama as a “morality” play) we condemn Tony for the world of crime he fosters and inhabits; but AJ seems to us naïve and ham-fisted at his bridling at Iraq, Afghanistan, his gas guzzling automobile, etc.

But Tony Soprano is not a negative exemplum. On the one hand he is a kind of everyman – an intensified version of everybody’s beleaguered father just trying to get through the week without any more tribulation than necessary. On the other hand, he doesn’t accept the narrative he has been given at face value. He spills over. He is more than a father and businessman. He is more than a mobster. He reaches out beyond himself. The underworld serves for him, in epic terms, as the Underworld. The last trip to Vegas was about just this: the journey into the unknown, into sexuality, into himself, into the mysteries of Fortune, into the other – perfectly captured by the peyote sunrise. The mobster as flower child, as the man of discovery.

So in the end Malfi is wrong. Tony is not a psychopath—a convenient misreading of people and narrative. And although she does betray her own ethical code (would a heart surgeon have dropped Tony because of his line of work? –Tony is correct when he tells her she is behaving immorally), Tony does come away from his encounters with her a better human being. No more panic attacks. His handling of the situation with Phil is exemplary – the least violence possible - everything seemingly (although one never knows for sure) back on track (nice touch in his negotiations with Paulie). If we could all be so frank about ourselves and our world, maybe we could at least do away with the senseless violence.

well, if anyone wants to take out some frustration, I found a site where you can whack a few Sopranos Family members and even write your own ending.
www.mysopranosending.com

tonys not dead ive been with the sopranos right from the begining and he was,nt whacked its the who shot jr theory these directers want you to puzzle for years on theorys of the end but i would say like bobby ewings shower scence in dallas we will get the truth in a storyline from hbo sooner or later i look forward to it.