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	<title>Joho the Blog &#187; gay marriage</title>
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	<description>Let's just see what happens</description>
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		<title>New Zealand knows how to pass a same sex marriage law!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2013 23:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidw</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[it\'s just marriage people!]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s apparently &#8220;Pokarekare Ana,&#8221; a popular Maori love song. (Hat tip to DailyKos)]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/04/17/new_zealand_gay_marriage_law_passes_supporters_sing_maori_love_song_in_parliament.html%2Fnew_zealand_gay_marriage_law_passes_supporters_sing_maori_love_song_in_parliament.html&#038;ei=qTVzUbLxOKnS0gHn-IGwBw&#038;usg=AFQjCNHFWQg0ODytR0klGjZg82bg7A4Y9A&#038;bvm=bv.45512109,d.dmQ">apparently</a> &#8220;Pokarekare Ana,&#8221; a popular Maori love song</a>.</p>
<p>(Hat tip to <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/20/1202956/-Cheers-and-Jeers-Rum-and-Coke-SATURDAY">DailyKos</a>)</p>
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		<title>Why homosexuality looks like a decision</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidw</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note that in the following, I&#8217;m figuring out something that is probably obvious to everyone except me. The other day I found myself expostulating, &#8220;How can anyone think people choose which sex they&#8217;re attracted to???&#8221; (Yes, with three question marks. I was expostulating.) I followed this with the well-worn, &#8220;If they think homosexuality is a [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that in the following, I&#8217;m figuring out something that is probably obvious to everyone except me. </p>
<p>The other day I found myself expostulating, &#8220;How can anyone think people choose which sex they&#8217;re attracted to???&#8221; (Yes, with three question marks. I was expostulating.) I followed this with the well-worn, &#8220;If they think homosexuality is a choice, then they must also think that heterosexuality is. But at what point in their lives did they really make a choice between finding boys or girls hot? Never!!!&#8221; </p>
<p>My argument is not a good one. For at least some anti-gay folks, it poses a false equivalence. I think. </p>
<p> Thinking that gays choose their sexual &#8220;preference&#8221; but straights do not appears to be a contradiction until you factor in some assumptions about nature and temptation. So:  God set it up so that humans naturally are drawn to the opposite sex. But we can be tempted toward all sorts of sins: We can lust after a neighbor&#8217;s spouse. We can be drawn toward liquor. We can be tempted to shoplift. We all face many different temptations of varying degrees of badness. Good people resist temptations as firmly as they can. Homosexuals give in to their temptations, and even flaunt them.  </p>
<p> Thus, the proper equivalence isn&#8217;t between heterosexuals and homosexuals deciding which gender they&#8217;ll desire. It&#8217;s between homosexuals giving in to their temptation (same-sex sex) and heterosexuals giving in to their temptation (adultery, promiscuity, or some such). The equivalence isn&#8217;t in the choice of temptations but in the reaction to those temptations. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not agreeing, of course. I fly my rainbow flag high. But this helps me to understand what otherwise looks like an argument so incoherent that it&#8217;s incomprehensible how anyone could actually hold it. It&#8217;s not incoherent, given a certain set of premises. It&#8217;s coherent&#8230;but wrong. </p>
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		<title>Bill in Maine wants us to vote No on One</title>
		<link>http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2009/11/02/bill-in-maine-wants-us-to-vote-no-on-one/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidw</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[gay marriage]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to say I enjoyed this message from Bill, urging his fellow Mainers to vote against Question 1, which would undo the state&#8217;s gay marriage law. I&#8217;m in agreement with Bill&#8217;s opinions, but I also admired the writing and rhetoric.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I enjoyed <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/11/2/799416/-Cheers-and-Jeers:-Monday">this message from Bill</a>, urging his fellow Mainers to vote against Question 1, which would undo the state&#8217;s gay marriage law. I&#8217;m in agreement with Bill&#8217;s opinions, but I also admired the writing and rhetoric. </p>
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