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	<title>Joho the Blog &#187; plato</title>
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		<title>Who were you friending in 1973</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 13:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>davidw</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s the 50th anniversary of what became, arguably, the first digital social networking tool, PLATO. In its honor, the PlatoHistory site has posted a list of what some of the current Big Names in computers were doing when PLATO Notes, its message board, went live. There&#8217;s also a free conference, with Donald Bitzer and Ray [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the 50th anniversary of what became, arguably, the first digital social networking tool, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLATO_(computer_system)">PLATO</a>. In its honor, the PlatoHistory site has posted a <a href="http://www.platohistory.org/blog/2010/05/where-were-they-in-1973.html">list</a> of what some of the current Big Names in computers were doing when PLATO Notes, its message board, went live.  There&#8217;s also a <a href="http://www.platohistory.org/conference/50th-anniversary/">free conference</a>, with Donald Bitzer and Ray Ozzie keynoting; Bitzer created PLATO and Ozzie founded Lotus Notes which was originally modeled on Plato notes. </p>
<p>(For the record: in 1973, I was spending a year between college and grad school, being a handyman, writing badly, and pining. And you?)</p>
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		<title>Plato and chat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im reading Julian Warners &#8220;From Writing to Computers,&#8221; published in 1994. In a wonderful chapter he looks at the senses in which the Western tradition thought documents contained or were intelligent â€” written documents &#8220;appear to understand what they are saying,&#8221; Plato says. Warner looks carefully at Platos Phaedrus, a seminal text for those concerned [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im reading Julian Warners &#8220;From Writing to Computers,&#8221; published in 1994. In a wonderful chapter he looks at the senses in which the Western tradition thought documents contained or were intelligent â€” written documents &#8220;appear to understand what they are saying,&#8221; Plato says. Warner looks carefully at Platos Phaedrus, a seminal text for those concerned with the transition from oral to written cultures. Thats the one where Plato worries that the onset of written documents will ruin human memory: Those who acquire the skill of writing &#8220;will cease to exercise their memory and become forgetful; they will rely on writing to bring things to their remembrance by external signs instead of on their own internal resources.&#8221; </p>
<p>Plato has another complaint: Writings cant respond to questions:  &#8220;writing involves a similar disadvantage to painting. The productions of paintings look like living beings, but if you ask them a question they maintain a solemn silence.&#8221; Ive taken these quotes from Plato from Warner pp. 58-59.</p>
<p>Makes you wonder what Plato would have made of chat, IM, and SMS.</p>
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